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There was an URL there, but right before the book went to press the web site went 404. I called the publisher and had him delete the URL. He must have missed the sentence referring to the URL before it. Anyway the other links work fine and all the information you need is there.
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As far as the ethics, I do the psychic bit, I have no problem with it. I make lots of money doing it. However just because it is OK for me, doesn't mean it is OK for you.
I'm not trying to hide the fact I do psychic readings, I do. However, I am not suggesting you do them. Take it anyway you want to.

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Aaaah.

And as far as the ethics, I wasn't refering to the ethics themselves in my review, but to the wording of the disclaimer. The way it was written.

But yeah, as far as overal impression of the book so far, I love it! This is really really good stuff.
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PsyKosh,

Do get back to us after you read my portion and the book in its entirety. I look forward to your thoughts Smile

Great idea with the cotton ball and rag! This type of thinking will take you far with cloud busting.

UPDATE: ALL ORDERS HAVE BEEN SHIPPED. This means both domestic and foreign orders ALL went out today. Enjoy!

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Smile Smile Smile

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I just ordered mine yesterday, does that mean it got shipped or am I on the second edition list?
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All the people on MY LIST had their orders shipped out today.

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Hello everyone,

I just had my first major cloudbusting experience.

I work for NOKIA mobile phones, and my desk has a clear window to look outside.
All day I spent practicing busting clouds.
Well late in the afternoon I passed by the receptionist's desk, and she always wants me to show her some magic.
I told her to come to the window. I told her that I had studied many years the ability to be able to control elements. I pointed to a cloud and told her that I would drain the moisture from the cloud and make it vanish. As I was concentrating and making the cloud vanish, I started to cry big time, and she was like "OH my God" I told her that I was sucking all the moisture from the cloud with my energy. Well the cloud vanished and I stopped sobbing!
She gave me a hug, and said that was the most amazing thing I have ever seen.
Thanks Devin and Jerome
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Nice, hope we hear more experiences from people. I know I'll be giving a many stories Smile
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Keep those stories coming. Alex I really like the idea of crying as you say you are draining the moisture from the cloud. I think this has great potential. If we do a second volume this is one idea we will use with full credit to you.

I also like the idea of pulling apart a cotton ball in my voodoo theme. Once again if a second volume is released this would be included.

I agree with Psy-Kosh that the vanishing a cloud over a cell phone could be expanded more. I think the current instructions will teach you the basics. Once you learn to bust clouds you will be able to do it over the phone. It may take a little longer.

However I have thought of ways to make this super fast and surefire. If we do a second volume an entire section will be devoted to the phone bit. As mentioned the the other thread, Jerome and I constantly come up with new angles and ideas with clouds. The reason the book was delayed was that I kept adding in new material. Finally I had to call it quits or the book would still be on my computer.

Since publishing the book, many additional ideas have occurred to me. Such as making the clouds vanish and then putting them back. Jerome has a new idea of ripping a hole in a storm cloud. We have more than enough material to do a second volume. However the second volume would build on the stuff in the first volume.

Vol one teaches the basics. Vol 2 would expand the basics and give you more details and further presentation ideas.

If I see good ideas posted in this thread, then we will consider using them in volume two with full credit. If we use your idea and volume two is published you will be given a free copy.

Devin
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Cool. Anyways, extension to earlier idea with using a rag: Best perhaps to use wwhen doing it indoors or busting a cloud through the television...

Something like this:

"hrm... there seems to be a smudge here, lemme clean that off.... still there... still there...." blink confused, theck the bottle of whatever window cleaner you used and "woah... check it out, this stuff is good. Cleaned right through to the cloud on the other side..." (if you're going for combo between shock and laugh...)

Or, expanding on the cotton... don't bust... strain and try to "rip" a piece of cloud away "uh... uh... GOT IT!"

"whew... that's tough, really tough, can't do it on my own anymore today after that... hey, wait... all these clouds were in the sky together, same overal blob of moisture, so by the law of sympathetic magic, they should be linked... So..." (if doing a second bust right aftet the first is appropriate at the time, this is a good lead in from the first bust into voodoo effect.) Alternately, if doing for a kid, have them the first time help you, holding your other hand, helping keeping you on the ground as you're pulling on the cloud... and let the kid keep the peice of cloud as a souveniear.

Hey, I just now as I was typing this got another idea inspired by the post elsewhere with the kites.

This would definately take practice and the right conditions, but anyone who has the book ought to be able to see exactly what I have in mind: Go "cloud fishing"... make a kite reel look like a fishing rod, maybe put a hook at the end of the kite, and "fish" for a cloud in the air, and then reel it in and take off the piece of cloud. Smile

Devin and Jerome: Your stuff is fantastic... reading it gives so many more ideas than just it directly even. Wheeeeeeee.
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You think Vol 2 will be a firm release?
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Psy-Kosh,

Again, very nice thinking here. One thing I've been working with lately is transplanting clouds, i.e., one takes them out of the sky and infuses other objects with their essence . . . think Losander's Floating Table, etc.

Over the weekend, I transplanted a cloud into a skull made from quartz and caused it to weep. Very strong stuff.

Thank you for your thoughts!

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Not to give TOO much away, but I'm developing a new routine, "Death of a Cloud", wherein a cloud busts in tandem with the performer stopping his pulse. Keep the ideas and reviews coming!!!

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Start writing I guess lol
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It's just good to have book 1 done and over with Smile It was a labor of love, but a labor nonetheless.

A volume 2 would have to be by popular demand. We'll see what the common response is to the first book for now. Smile So far, so good!

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TT2: "Death of a Cloud" sounds super creepy and powerful. Not particularly my open topped container of plant infusion, but...

Of course, I've mentioned I think to both you and Devin what I, in the long term, want to do with this material, so once I've gotten a hafway decent grasp on it, will, of course, be pestering you two. Smile

Wait, idea: I peeked ahead to the weather control stuff...

For a bit of fun, prove just how powerful the "washing a car to make it rain" ritual can be. Smile
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Pester away, mate! That's what we're here for. I think your long term goals and ideas for cloud busting and presentations are elegant and magical, and I would love to help you develop a routine suited especially for you and your audiences.

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Thanks. I know I'm nowhere near being able to actually perform such a thing, even if I had a methadology worked out. It's more something to steer for that helps me decide what sort of magic I need to learn next. (As I had mentioned, I'll need sooner or later for that an appropriate object piercing coin style effect (for a certain part of the story))

But yeah, that'll be a while. For now I'll just play around with working out easier/shorter things to do with this stuff.

"You know the whole thing about it always raining after you wash your car? Well, I think mommy nature doesn't like me messing with the sky, and has been having a bit of a go at me by being _really really_ agressive in my case about that. Here, you'll see what I mean in a little while probably..."

ooooh this material is going to be so so so much fun. muhahhahaha... Smile
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I was playing around with some ideas today and this kinda hit me as something that might play well as a bizarre effect. I was thinking something along the lines of the storyline that Peter Loughran uses with the rain stone, only I was thinking about using a strange coin. Basically, instead of making it rain, use the coin to draw the energy out of a cloud. Bust the cloud, and then perform the Crying Quarter effect. I was thinking a fairly large coin so that you could really get a lot of water out of the coin. Once you've shown the coin around to everyone you place it in your palm up hand, hiding the modus operandi to make the coin "cry" once you have busted the cloud.

I know this isn't anything revolutionary or anything, just spitballing here to help keep the presentational ideas flowing.
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Devin,
please send me a pm with the tracking information instead of an e-mail. did you allready ship the book?
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I haven't read all of these posts (nor the book), so sorry if someone already submitted this idea.

How about busting a cloud (making it disappear) and having a covered glass fill with it?

See the video at: http://www.plasplasplas.com/shop/product......s_id=239

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Terry,
EXCELLENT....thanks for the link. This is one of the cleverest ideas I've heard yet. Beautiful.

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Ooooh, yes, very nice. *checks price of effect* yow, not for me.

But still, very nice. And, given the right conditions, you could do it in reverse, use the smoke to put clouds in the sky.
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On 2007-08-01 15:31, Psy-Kosh wrote:
Ooooh, yes, very nice. *checks price of effect* yow, not for me.


This is an old effect and there are other ways (cheaper) to do it - but this may be the safest and most effective.

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I've finished Jerome's section, so thought I might put my initial thoughts on that.

First, I'll probably have to reread it a couple times (well, same for the whole book, but...)

Overall, more cool thoughts, definately some principles to think about that would apply to far more than just cloudbusting.

There're one or two places where, well, I'm not sure if it's an editing bugaboo or just me getting confused... Specifically, the bit about the 11th commandment. Is that supposed to refer to "don't abuse this" or is a line or something missing from that page?

Also, another overall impression I got was that on the good side, Jerome suggests multiple references to research for various things he mentions... But the down side is that I almost feel that the book should have a note along the lines of while whatever your background you'll get something out of his section, it definately in areas seems to presupose the reader to already be well versed in various psych principles, NLP, and so on used in magic, so the reader with that background would get the most out of that section.

ie, I know a teeny bit about NLP, for instance, but emphasis on teeny. (I ought to go and learn more, actually...)

Again, either way this is great stuff, and I'll need to take some time to think it through, so don't let anything else I'm saying make it seem like I'm saying otherwise, just saying that anyone with that background would, I'd expect, would get more out of Jerome's section.

Ooooh, story/presentation idea:

Look up... then... "HEY! Get back here!" Look around at spectators. "see that 'cloud' up there? That's actually a genie. He owes me some wishes and instead ran off and is trying to hide from me. Fortunately, I've finally got his bottle/lamp/milk carton rigged to, hopefully, pull him back in from a distance." Unstop bottle/lamp or whatever and aim it at cloud and, well, suck the cloud in, possibly with some theatrics, and having the specs help ancor you to the ground so that you won't be dragged off by the genie. Maybe have the bottle set up so that afterwards a little voice will be heard inside yelling "hey! let me out!" or the bottle rattling on its own, or something.
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Hopefully tomorrow I'll be reading this, I'm dying here ;p
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Just a quick update. Jerome has sent out all of his books. As of today, all of my books have been sent out, both US and Overseas. For those who ordered from Tilford, as of today all of his orders have been sent out.

So if you haven't gotten your book yet, then rest assured it has been sent. Anyone in the USA will have their book in hand this week.

Devin
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On 2007-08-01 22:06, Blindside785 wrote:
Hopefully tomorrow I'll be reading this, I'm dying here ;p


I'm with ya, buddy!

:)
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