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dylan magic
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Posted: Aug 14, 2007 1:57pm
Hey guys, I'm hearing good things about htis, but can anyone give a full review?, maybe break the effects down a little, price is kinda high if its a bit of a dud, not that I'm bad mouthing but ims ure we've all been burnt with a few purchases over the years,
anyway any help appreciated,..
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Carlos the Great
Inner circle
California
1234 Posts
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Posted: Aug 14, 2007 2:21pm
I was looking at this the other day (I like to window shop when I am broke and know I can't get myself into trouble). Doing searches have turned up a lot of positive reviews on this, from some really good performers. Do a search, check out what they have to say. If you get it, let me know how you like it as well as I won't be buying anything until... oh, October at best, lol.
-C
Cognite tute
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caycemindreader
New user
UK
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 5:42am
The main thread with comments on this book seems to be
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=195928&forum=15&start=30
I'm still thinking about it, so no review yet.
Cayce
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parmenion
Inner circle
France/Switzerland
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 11:09am
Magic is it for children ?
Now if you don't read a review , you don't get anything.
Papa, mama Can I go out ? 
ok,but you come back at 10
if you heard good things about a book and if the book sound to you intersesting, get it !
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caycemindreader
New user
UK
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 11:39am
I can see that you are trying to make a point Parmenion, and I salute you for your efforts, but I must confess it is not immediately clear what it is? Its one thing to get told by a dealer 'This book I want you to buy is the best thing since self-slicing bread', but it's another thing to hear good / bad from your peers. I think we have all bought enough garbage before to want to be careful.
Cayce
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dylan magic
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 12:54pm
Yeah thanks for the support parmenion, obviously you have money to burn and should stick to ellusionist, for the workers sensible enough to obtain info before purchasing, due to the streams of dealer crap out there a toast!!
any way anyone care to review?,
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psychicturtle
Special user
UK
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 1:41pm
I am far too busy to write a full review, suffice to say it is a very good book with a lot of effects for the money, the thinking is brilliant, the plots are great, it is clearly written and I would certainly recommend it.
Having said that, if you are a performer then the price of the book is almost nothing based on what we can earn, right? So you should get it.
magicshop.co.uk are selling it now as well. They have all the effects listed and briefly described there.
http://www.thombleasdale.com/daivernon.html
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Bushido
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 2:14pm
I read many great reviews on this. The truth is, I purchased it and did not like it. I guess my taste might be a little different from the majority. If you are interested, I’ll sell you my copy – It’s still only a few weeks old. Send me a PM
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IAIN
Inner circle
england
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 2:22pm
I think a better of putting it is this...
if you read a review of a film, and it says its rubbish, but you still go and see it, and it turns out in your eyes, to be an excellent film...well, which is right? you or the other reviewer? anyway...
though I only got it today, I've thoroughly enjoyed Mitox, rather smugly, its also signed by the man himself...lots of things in there for me to start messing around with...im sure Phill Smiff will be overjoyed to hear I was so glued to the book, I sat on the lavatory and continued reading it...being careful not to splash it as I stood up...an of course, washed my hands before picking it back up...
The Beautiful Lie - in the top 50 of best mentalism releases 2009 on Jheff's Marketplace of the Mind http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=753133
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mindpunisher
Inner circle
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 3:16pm
First person to contact me via pm can have my copy for £20 including P&P in uk
For The Serious Mentalist..
"Turn your Thumper Into A Secret Weapon"
"hypnotic presentations"
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Carlos the Great
Inner circle
California
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 3:17pm
For me, a review is only as useful as my knowledge of the reviewer.
One of the many benefits of interacting with people here on the Café is that you are able to start to learn who thinks and performs like you do. Then, whenever they give reviews, you have a conceptual framework with which to evaluate them.
For me, for example, I saw a review of Key Accessory by TT2 (more of a statement than a review, I think) and I immediately knew it was for me. This was based on Jerome and my interactions, his other posts, and the level of integrity I associate with him.
Again, it's all relative. For example, CNN movie reviews are completely irrelevant to me because they aren't even as accurate as random guesses (relative to my feelings when I watch a movie).
-C
Cognite tute
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IAIN
Inner circle
england
4009 Posts
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 3:18pm
If you don't mind me opening a can of worms...you ok with re-selling your magic books then? there's that moral crossroads with it all isn't there...some sites its frowned upon...
just asking!
The Beautiful Lie - in the top 50 of best mentalism releases 2009 on Jheff's Marketplace of the Mind http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=753133
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mindpunisher
Inner circle
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 3:21pm
Yes I'm fine with selling something that doesn't suit me or I'll never use.
I haven't even read all of this book since I just don't like it. But it seems plenty do.
It will just sit in a drawer otherwise.
I don't think it lived up to the hype or ad copy so I have no problem selling it on.
For The Serious Mentalist..
"Turn your Thumper Into A Secret Weapon"
"hypnotic presentations"
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phillsmiff
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UK
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 3:43pm
Hi all, Mitox isn't for everyone, nothing is, short of oxygen. And maybe Krispy kreme.
From my point of view I don't think there is a big problem with someone selling the book on if they really aren't going to use it. I'd rather that a copy was in the hands of someone who will enjoy it and put it to use than sitting forlorn on the shelf of someone it didn't click with.
There are a whole load of reviews of the book on the site which I have collected up from various forums and readers who have emailed me. Have a look at:
http://mitox.phillsmiff.com/reviews.html
There is a breakdown of the effects on the site too, but it could all just be hype, who knows?
Phill
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Paul Brook
Loyal user
UK
277 Posts
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 3:55pm
I know, Phill, I KNOW 
No hype there my friend, they are good, strong effects in my opinion.
I not only love the effects, but also the whit and humour that Phill brings to his work. To top it all off he is also a really good guy.
Kindest,
-Paul
PAUL BROOK
Author of: loadsa cool stuff
Watch my very own internet Channel with new Episodes every Mon & Thurs - www.DayOfAMindReader.co.uk
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Roger Kelly
Inner circle
England
2540 Posts
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 4:31pm
Folks - its good stuff and written in style!
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mindpunisher
Inner circle
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 4:47pm
I think its ok to voice an opinion even if it goes against the mainstream.
I would like to see more people do that.
I know I may be in the minority but prob not alone. I didn't like the effects to be honest. I thought they were really weak. And didn't live up to the ad.
It is a beautifully produced book a labour of love from what I can see. So I am quite happy to let mine go. Especially as many are happy with theirs. Ild rather see it go to a good home.
For The Serious Mentalist..
"Turn your Thumper Into A Secret Weapon"
"hypnotic presentations"
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IAIN
Inner circle
england
4009 Posts
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 5:03pm
Ah tabula mentis one and all...
very fine book in my....book...i especially liked the thinking behind Real Deal..
The Beautiful Lie - in the top 50 of best mentalism releases 2009 on Jheff's Marketplace of the Mind http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=753133
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Traveler
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 5:33pm
This thread is bloody awful.
For one thing I think Phill honestly deserves all the praise he gets here. Mitox is one of the most original books I've ever read, not to mention the writing style is superb.
The problem is that I rather selfishly wished this book would have been a "collector's item" with me being one of the lucky few, of course.
I do believe it started out this way : one guy taking the risk of publishing and distributing his own book, not knowing how it would be received.
The word got out, however and "mitox" became some kind of modern classic. This says enough about the quality of the work.
Add to this that Mitox isn't a small pdf that sells for lots of dollars, no, it's a real, well produced book.
If that isn't enough, there's an "updates" page which all the readers can access for free. Ideas and suggestions from readers are posted there.
And as a cherry on the pie there's Phill himself, who is always willing to discuss things further and to answer every question you might have.
Still, I wanted all of this to go unnoticed, but that's just greed talking. The truth is that "mitox" WILL be a classic in this field. This book puts many other "publications" I've seen to shame.
Still, this thread is a bloody awful one (greed again, sorry.)
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Roger Kelly
Inner circle
England
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Posted: Aug 15, 2007 5:57pm
Wise words traveler! Nicely put! a darn good book!
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Davro
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Posted: Aug 16, 2007 4:18am
I thought that Mitox meant the "falsly" spoken word.
Best Wishes David
Best Wishes, David
Mid way this way of life we're bound upon, I woke to find myself in a dark wood, where the right road was wholly lost and gone.
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phillsmiff
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Posted: Aug 16, 2007 8:24am
I wasn't going to mention it David, but you are of course right, the tagline is: The Falsely Spoken Word. There may or may not have been an unspoken word in there, but you probably wouldn't have heard it anyway.
Phill
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Davro
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Posted: Aug 16, 2007 12:29pm
I was attempting (albeit obliquely) to point out that if the title hadn't been read correctly, then maybe the book ---------
Best Wishes, David
Best Wishes, David
Mid way this way of life we're bound upon, I woke to find myself in a dark wood, where the right road was wholly lost and gone.
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caycemindreader
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UK
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Posted: Aug 17, 2007 12:01pm
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On 2007-08-16 12:29, David Lancaster wrote:
I was attempting (albeit obliquely) to point out that if the title hadn't been read correctly, then maybe the book --------- |
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is too far away?
Cayce
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Tom Lauten
Special user
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Posted: Aug 17, 2007 12:14pm
For what it is worth I give a big THUMBS UP for Mitox....where everyone decides to put their thumbs up is up to the individual...I put mine on the two pages of Mitox I am currently reading.
Great effects, tidy methods, realistic routining and ambitions, clear thinking, refreshing presentation and a healthy sense of humour all make for a "keeper" for me. Strangely...it also sees pride of place in MY library...the toilet...sorry Phil...it's where I do my best thinking, as I clear my mind.
Living at and loving Loch Ness!
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The Doctor
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Gallifrey
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Posted: Aug 17, 2007 12:26pm
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On 2007-08-17 12:14, Tom Lauten wrote:
...sorry Phil...it's where I do my best thinking, as I clear my mind.
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And your bowels...hohohoho
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mindpunisher
Inner circle
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Posted: Aug 17, 2007 12:39pm
Should that not be de-tox?
For The Serious Mentalist..
"Turn your Thumper Into A Secret Weapon"
"hypnotic presentations"
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phillsmiff
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UK
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Posted: Aug 18, 2007 8:11am
Tom, I think that's what they call too much information. I guess its OK so long as the book still has all it's pages.
Phill
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Tom Lauten
Special user
690 Posts
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Posted: Aug 18, 2007 4:51pm
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On 2007-08-17 12:26, The Doctor wrote:
And your bowels...hohohoho
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...I hadn't thought of that one!
Phil, how much would...IN THEORY MIND YOU...some replacement pages be? Just out of curiosity...oh dear...
ANYWAY...it's a brilliant read and I think mentalist performers (and bizarrists for that matter) could well find it a very welcome addition to their library...wherever that might be.
Living at and loving Loch Ness!
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Paul Brook
Loyal user
UK
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Posted: Aug 18, 2007 4:58pm
I couldn't agree more with Tom (sorry that we didn't get chance to talk at Treadwells Tom).
I may need a replacement page or two for the book as well, I drooled at the mention of M&Ms, sorry!
PAUL BROOK
Author of: loadsa cool stuff
Watch my very own internet Channel with new Episodes every Mon & Thurs - www.DayOfAMindReader.co.uk
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