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Effect- Amaze your spectators by tying your shoelaces without even touching them! The laces tie themselves! This effect can be performed in shorts!!! Easy to do! Comes complete with detailed instructions and supplies to get you started creating this outstanding illusion!

Method- I don't really like the method. I have both this and STS and STS's method is way better.

Gimmick- You have to apply the gimmick to your shoe. You needed to have a needle and I kept poking myself.

Angles- You can do this completely surrounded.

Setup- You do the setup once and then never do it again.

Reset- The reset is you untie your laces right in front of the audience.

Pros:
Can be done in shorts
No extra laces needed
It came with almost all the props

Cons:
Need to prepare it once
Need to where thread on you all day long
The Instructions are very poorly written
Your shoes are not really tied
You need to put things in your shoe

Overall- I didn't like this trick at all. It took me a very long time to make it, the instructions made almost no sense, and you need to wear thread on your body all day long. I like STS way, WAY better.

I give it a 2 out of 10

In my opinnion stay away from this one.

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I'm glad I found this review.
Now that shorts season is (finally) upon us, I was lamenting being able to use my STS much less. I was about to buy this one. I'll avoid it now.
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I just saw this topic and was at first amazed to see anyone talking about this product. Then when I read the posts here I was kind of shocked and disappointed that magicman4646 disliked Animated Shoe Laces so much. You are entitled to your opinion and you’re not alone but we all have opinions and are entitled to them as well. But, let me set the record straight. Neither Justin nor the creator of Animated Shoe Laces; Jeremy Moncrief, work for me, and as a matter of fact neither does anyone else. I am the owner of the Product 100 percent and even though we have sold over 10,000 units there are people out there in the Market that don't like it or never use it. The methods are completely different and as they say different strokes for different folks is a good adage to apply here. So, let’s try to keep this topic civil or the powers that be may just lock it up and throw away the key… lol
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I have owned both the animated shoelace and jay nobelzadas self tying shoelace and I personally would have to side with the animated shoelace due to the fact that it can be done in shorts as well as pants. provided, it does take more setup
than the self tying shoelace but I feel that it is worth it. everyone may have different oppinions on which to use but I say to try them both and find out just which one fits your own personality best seeing as they are both very cheap.
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Personally, I'd rather not walk around with loops of thread all over my body. With the STS, I can walk around knowing that I won't get tangled. Also, the knot in STS is real. In Animated Shoelaces, the knot looks real, but is fake. If the spectators touched it they would realize something is wrong with your laces. With STS, the know is 100% real and examinable.

STS only works in pants, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make because it's a better method. Animated Shoelaces can be done in shorts, but that doesn't do it for me.
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Magicman4646,
Thanks for bringing a spirited debate about STS versus Animated Shoe Laces. This is a topic that is near and dear to my heart and welcomes your give and take. I hope you take this posting in the spirit it is given and not look upon it as an attack on you. It’s just that you can't say that one method is better than another in this case. If STS works for you then more power to you. But that doesn’t make it the gospel. What works for you may not work for others.

Now to the exact reasons I think your wrong about Animated Shoe Laces.

ASL is a principal that can be applied to other ideas like a self tying Present, or Tie which I have used on many occasions and other such ideas are possible that are not possible with STS. To totally ignore this point would not be an educated thought. It would be like saying; the Serpentine Knot that’s performed with a silk, where it visibly ties or unties is a crappy trick. I think you would find many who would object to that line of thinking.

To address your concerns directly, I don't think there is any more thread involved with Animated Shoelaces vs. STS, and tangling really is not an issue with either effect.

As to that’s not a real Knot? You don’t see the spectators going down to your shoe and saying… Oh those are not really the laces or those are just fake laces? And god forbid if your pants move and you’re exposed. If the brain says to the spectator that the shoes are untied then they are untied. The same is true for ASL; if it’s tied it’s tied. You know I probably have performed ASL over 5000 times in demonstrations when I had the shop and not one person ever has bent down and looked at the shoe laces and said wow... that’s a fake knot. You can’t have it both ways.

If you watch a demonstration of each effect side by side, you will find the action is completely different with each product. One demonstration shows a shake of the foot and the already untied shoelaces are suddenly tied. Is this amazing? Of course it is. In the other demonstration a shake of the foot and the already untied laces (or you can reach down and untie them), visibly tie in a slower more animated way. Is this amazing? Of course it is. Which is more amazing? My opinion is ASL, because of the psychology involved and the principals used.

I am not saying that STS is a bad effect or that the method hugs. But to say that ASL is a terrible product would be just totally ignorant of the facts. When the moment of magic arrives I don't see any comparisons that can be made that say STS is better. The spectator witnessing the Laces physically tie themselves versus all of a sudden, the differences are stark.

And you totally forgot about set up time. There is a onetime setup for ASL and once that’s done you can do it as many times as you want. With STS you have to slink off to reset.

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I think Animated Shoelaces is a terrible product. It's my opinion, and you can't say my opinion is wrong. I hope I sell it too, and fast! I don't want it at all.

I HAVE had people examine my shoe. I HAVE taken it off for people to look at it. Performing in a magic shop is TOTALLY different than performing it for real people. For the STS, the thread is on the inside of your clothes. In ASL, the thread is outside your clothes waiting to be tangled.

The spectator will remember your shoelace tied itself. They won't remember HOW it tied. They only care about the final effect; the shoelace tied itself. Especially because they haven't seen both versions, they'll never know the difference.

In STS, if the laces go far enough up your pants can be moved all they want. That's not a valid point.
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You’re awfully hostile to be no bigger than you are. I was not attacking you personally only commenting on your opinion, the ASL method is inferior to STS. I can say your opinion is wrong and I did so in many sentences. By the way; you really should read the instructions as there is no string running up your leg on the outside of the clothing. As far as being able to fool real people; if you can fool the people who come into a magic shop to buy things to fool others, I think that showing it in a shop is much harder. Lastly, I will give up trying to convince you or anyone else the merit of ASL.
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My opinion is MY opinion. It can't be wrong. Maybe you need the definition of opinion. If you have a dictionary by you please look it up. I THINK THIS IS A TERRIBLE PRODUCT AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS. That's my opinion, hence the "I THINK."

The instructions say the thread is going up the back of your leg attaching to the center belt loop. If this means the thread is going INSIDE your pants the instructions are written very, very poorly.

Fooling a magician is sometimes easier than fooling a layman.
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I wasn't satisfied with mine either. Smile The special something broke on me a couple of times. Anyway, not knocking on the product, but it wasn't for me. Sure, you can do this in shorts, but I think the set up just went way over my head. I use STS on a daily basis though.
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Plus, the STS comes with very good instructions, and a great instructional DVD. ASL comes with a terribly written sheet of instructions.
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Also, magicman4646 you might have the first set of instrctions. There is a second set that is better and more in detail. We sent it out Everyone that we could find that bought it.
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Well, can I have the new set of instructions?

And I wrote this review a long time ago. And then Dmann then came on telling my opinion was WRONG more than a year later. My review was peaceful until he came.
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You may already have the second set I don't know. Pm me so we can figure out if you have the second set of instructions.
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Thanks for everyones patience and the issue has been resolved. So, we are back on line and open for business.
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I found animated shoelaces a little dissapointing also, while the method is unique and the only way I know of do do a 'self tying' shoelace in shorts, I just didn't find it practical for my personal use. I believe I also have an old set of instructions and I was dissapointed with what I recieved for the $15, but then again you don't get much in magic for $15.
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JollyMon,
If you send me your email address I will provide you with the New Instructions at no cost to you. I guess you won't be interested in the DVD when that comes out?
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I got this a long time ago and never got around to doing the setup - mostly because of the instructions. (A poor excuse, I know, but it came with a bunch of other purchases that I was frankly more excited about because they were more than just a sheet of typewritten copy.) I have both the ASL and STS and though the STS works well, it has the limitation of having to wear pants, and I think it's suffered a little bit because of exposure. The Animated Shoelace, to me, seems like it's a much more magical effect. Glad I found this thread - it has reminded me to give it a shot.

Dave, I hope you don't mind if I PM you about the newer instructions just in case. And by the way, I've just started working with the Omega Reel - and I think I'm becoming a convert.
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Greatchach,
I am glad your enjoying the ASL. We are glad to sign you up in the Omega Reel Convert List... LOL!
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I have both ASL and STS and they both have their pros and cons. Different people will like them differently. What suits one person may not suit the other and vice versa.

STS is great and have a convinient setup. You can have it installed in your pants and you are ready to go for the week or two or longer that you don't wash your pants! Anytime you go out, you just need to wear the pants and put on the correct pair of shoes and you are ready for the whole day! The cons is that you need to wear long pants, which isn't much of an issue, but some may say it's not that visual. The good thing is that you end clean, you can take off your shoe and pass it to people for close-up micro examination! I rate it 7 out of 10.

ASL is also wonderful and the PROs about it is that you can do it in short pants and it is visual!!! You cannot pass out your shoe for examination on this, which there's no reason you need to anyway!! and no one would want to anyway! Specs can still kneel down and have a close look at your shoe and the gimmick will still be not clear to them. The cons is that the setup is a bit more trick and there's chance of you breaking the gimmick through out the day when wearing it. Don't underestimate it as this is a visual effect and has impact! It gets slightly lower points from my point of view because of the setup that requires a bit more care. I rate it 5.5 out of 10.

I say they are both closely rated and both are great! But it's all depend on your style. What other people like might not be to your liking and vice versa.
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Hey Dmann,
considering you are the 100% owner of the animated shoelace, any related comments you make are taken with a grain of salt. Your opinions are also biased. Going after magicman4646 for his review of your product is in very poor taste. I know of many people who have said the same thing as magicman4646 about animated shoelace. You're coming off as a bully pushing around a teenager. I don't know how old you are, but the kid is showing more class than you. I just thought you should know that.
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Free-loader with a very rich "Sugar Mamma" WOW and you are the one to talk!!
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And by the way I own animated shoelaces! Dave just sales it for my.
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On 2009-02-13 03:52, JeremyM0411 wrote:
Free-loader with a very rich "Sugar Mamma" WOW and you are the one to talk!!


Wow, that's the best you got? How creative of you.(lol) Pretty pathetic actually, but thanks for letting me know you own the trick, cause now that I see that you can't even be creative enough to insult me, I have to conclude that you lack in that department.
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On 2009-01-19 21:33, Dmann wrote:
I just saw this topic and was at first amazed to see anyone talking about this product. Then when I read the posts here I was kind of shocked and disappointed that magicman4646 disliked Animated Shoe Laces so much. You are entitled to your opinion and you’re not alone but we all have opinions and are entitled to them as well. But, let me set the record straight. Neither Justin nor the creator of Animated Shoe Laces; Jeremy Moncrief, work for me, and as a matter of fact neither does anyone else. I am the owner of the Product 100 percent and even though we have sold over 10,000 units there are people out there in the Market that don't like it or never use it. The methods are completely different and as they say different strokes for different folks is a good adage to apply here. So, let’s try to keep this topic civil or the powers that be may just lock it up and throw away the key… lol


Sounds like he's claiming 100% ownership to me.

Before you think about starting a flame war to get this thread locked, I will not be responding to any other comments from you. This thread is for those who have bought AS and are giving their honest reviews. You may not like what people are saying, but they are being honest. Just remember, how you present yourself here will affect potential future sales of AS. You'd think you would already know that.
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Dmann and JeremyM0411:

You need to learn that for every product you release, some people are not going to like it. Let them be, there is no need to bash them. Everyone has different opinions, some you might not agree with, but you can't help what they think. Bashing someone just because they don't like your product really shows what kind of business you run. I now know where I am NOT going to buy another product from again.
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I stumbled into this thread and just want to put in my two cents. I have both Animated Shoe Laces and STS, both have their merits. Magicman4646 just doesn't like Animated Shoe Laces, so be it, that's his opinion. Personally I think that it's a great concept which gets great reactions from those that witness it. Yes the initial instructions were.............bad, but this was corrected. I can never understand why some take others opinions so personal, its not a personal attack, its their opinion, just as your opinion is yours, no right or wrong.
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Dmann you are lucky the masked magician didn't decide to reveal your animated shoelace on national TV, as he had just done to your competition probably cos it was more common...
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And a lot more popular.
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