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teevtee
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I don't mean to pile on but the video demo truly looks horrible, even to the point where you might consider taking it down Andrew.

It is true that we know what is coming so perhaps it steals some thunder but a card castle cannot be held by the top without the entire thing looking like a flat, printed, fake thing... which is I guess what it is after all. In several of the demos it does not even open up smoothly and rather jerks and stalls and finally, painfully opens itself up.

A must skip based on the demo. It is cheap, it certainly could have applications (kid shows?) but that demo... jeez!

I will say one thing for this and I mean it seriously, in a world of magic advertising full of MASSIVELY misleading copy and videos it is nice to see a true representation of what is being sold.
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I started reading through the thread and got quite excited about this - then I watched the video dem which put me right off. You hve to put up a new video demo that shows the effect in a better light cause as it stands I am just not impulsed to buy it.
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I think given the context in that andrew said it to be useful, this is great. I think the demo is fine
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On 2007-12-03 14:28, Joshua Barrett wrote:
... I think the demo is fine


Call me crazy but I agree with Joshua. I think the demo is fine and the fact that people who actually have it are raving about it, not to mention that Andrew stands behind it enough to send them out "impulses" me to buy it.
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Your crazy....
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AHAHA I guess I asked for it.
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I just got this in the mail. I had time to view the DVD and to make the castle. What can I say? The demo really didn't do it any justice, as I was also one of the few who was turned off because of it. When the castle stands, it looks exactly like how you would build it and not flat at all.

It's a surprising moment for the spectators especially when you were just using the cards for something else. I've shown my wife a brief trick and she was shocked to see after a few manipulations that I was able to pull the castle out. Nice one Andrew!
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I think I am sensing a trend here... people who have seen Castlemania rave about it.
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It may very well be good, I have no idea, but the DEMO sucks, I mean REALLY sucks... therefore all the more reason to replace the demo.
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Teevtee, just for you I've put a new demo up that shows one routine all the way through. It's the bag production using an unprepared bag.

I'd love to get an audience reaction shot up there of one of the other guys on here who is doing it. Regular folks (non magicians not knowingly watching a "card castle" production demo!) just flip out.
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I'll check it out Andrew....

Mind you, I am not saying that the effect is not great or that it does not get great reactions... I honestly would not know as I have never performed it. However the demo video was really doing you a disservice so I am glad you upgraded it.
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I absolutely love the compactness of this card castle. The other day I had mine in my pocket and was passing by the Games and Puzzles section in my local bookstore. There weres ome youngsters looking at a book on card tricks (praises for some kids for actually reading a book!) and asked if I could see it. Slipped the castle into as I took it, opened it up to where it was and read out loud "How to Produce a Card Castle" [the page was actually about a double lift, but whatever] and produced it from the book. The kids flipped and immediately pulled the other books off the shelf to try to do the same. I just set the book back down and walked out of the store holding it and gaining a few looks from people. {Funny thing- never did buy a book after all}

So in a nutshell, thanx Andrew, for the creativity you provide.
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"So in a nutshell, thanx Andrew, for the creativity you provide."

Thank you for giving it a chance. Those kids will never look at books the same again!
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Not a problem Andrew!

And as for "Those kids" that "will never look at books the same again!"

I'm just happy that kids are reading books again, because there is some classic stuff in the books that have influenced the tricks and illusions that we have today. Although DVDs provide better instuction because they are visuals, there are some effects that are awesome because of how they are described in a book.

As for Andrew's effects, the glamour of them can only be seen in motion and not read, because reading an effect by Andrew is only half as awesome as seeing it (i.e. Ghostvision, Shrinker, HyperCards).

Keep the good times comin'!
"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not, none will suffice." -Joseph Dunninger



"Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it."Hebrews 13:2
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When I first read about this I was going to order some for my card manipulation act but then I saw the video and was disappointed. I will explain why.

In the Video it takes roughly 10 seconds to open the card castle.. which is a lot of dead time just reaching around and "putting" the castle together while the audience sits there watching you.

I would like the audience to see someone place cards in the bag and then pull out a card castle... Not someone shifting around and bracing and after 10 seconds pulling out a card castle which looks like its going to fall apart.. Which is my other concern .. Do I have to hold my thumb to brace it like in the video. The cd cover/promo has the magician holding it with 1 hand which is much cooler.


Overall I think its a great idea I just have these handling concerns and was hoping someone who has this would address them.
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Here are my concerns. #1 - endorsed by Eddy Ray. I have a genuine problem with Eddy's ethics in his video sets with magic makers. If he will take other people's material and claim it as his own or not properly credit creators (i.e. Jeff McBride), what makes me think I can trust his review of a product? #2 - A real-life card castle by nature is something that someone maticulously builds from the foundation up. It is also known as a card house. What makes its appearance so stunning is that it is instantly built (or appears). How illogical is it for someone to hold the top card, shake his wrist and the rest of the cards FALL FROM THE TOP! They are obviously all attatched. It looks like a folded up piece of paper. If you are holding it from the top and the cards don't fall down to the floor in a mess it tells the spectators that there is no reason it shouldn't fit in your wallet since they are all connected anyway. This destroys the nature of the effect itself. It is then self-destructive to any logical thinker.

So what does one do when he is finished, fold it up and put it back in his wallet as the spectators watch? Back away so the spectators can't see that it is essentially two dimensional and when he is out of sight fold it up and put it back into his wallet?

Does this effect really contribute to magic in any way or is it another money maker only? I'm sorry to sound so pessimistic but so much junk goes out on the market that are only half-baked ideas. They are not well thought through (though they may be "constructed well") and really have no purpose.
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While I don;t particularly like eddy, hes not part of this in anyway so I'm not so sure that's fair. I got this, and I like. is this a mind blowing effect? heck no! this is something that can be quickly and eeasily added in to any routine or act for "somthing extra" that can be funny, serious, ect ect. the idea for a card castle production is not new. one that is portable is. if the thought of a easy to carry item that make a nice production does not give you ideas of place you can use it, then one maybe its not for you, there no creativity flowing. I mean its 15 dollars, I spend more then that on coffee every week. I don;t see how a pocket version of a classic effect is "half-baked"
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Josh,

Here's where I find this half baked. If he put the thought into this effect that he should have, he would never hold it from the top and let all the "cards" drop down from above. That would seem obvious if he thought about it for 2 minutes or even took the time to view his own demo. You may like it because there are other ways to present it than "watch all the cards stick together and defy gravity." Mayne should have put more thought into his presentation to make it look like more than a folded up piece of cardboard (again, I am going by the demo video).

I believe that a magician should put thought and effort and real world trench work into his material before it is qualified to be put on the market. I will admit that fewer and fewer products are doing this though.
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I see what you mean and that would be nice, for it to pop from the bottom up so to speak. I will be doing it under cover ( injacket , for a spray of cards for example, so its nice seen folded. I like the idea of pulling it out of your jacket as I think its kind of funny and some will wonder how you fit the thing in your pocket etc. on the dvd he does discuss some of what he went through to develop this, and he said this is what met the parameters he wanted.
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