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WitchDocChris
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No, someone on here was gathering information on Outlaw customers who hadn't received products. I believe they intended to put together a case for legal action, but I just can't remember who it was and posts speaking out again Outlaw seem to disappear regularly.
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cocomax
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Aaron Sherman is in talks with the Federal Trade Commission and it looking for people who have not received things that they ordered from Outlaw to help show a pattern of behavior.

There are several others that are in talks with different government agencies, in CA, NY, TX and CT.

Tim
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I never received a Deadwood I paid for
More than two years ago now. Happy to cooperate in any investigation. Just PM me.
cocomax
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Something is going on at the Outlaw Web Site, all the product info / order pages have vanished.
WitchDocChris
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I checked, you are correct. The home page is still there as are some sub pages, but all products pages seem to be gone. I wonder what's happening.
Christopher
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John C
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On Dec 27, 2017, WitchDocChris wrote:
I checked, you are correct. The home page is still there as are some sub pages, but all products pages seem to be gone. I wonder what's happening.



uhhh, I would think he's ....leavin ....on a jet plane....don't look like he'll be back again.
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The web site is up and Rick is replying to emails very fast. Rick has limited items available, if you email him, he will tell you what he has.
cocomax
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There is something weird going on at outlaw, if you look at the Witch Box page it says 11/26/2017 ships in one week, each box is hand made and aged by Tim Wisseman. I can tell you that is all flat out wrong. Tim Wisseman does not build anything for Outlaw. . .

Also Dr X has ether quit or is in the process of quitting Outlaw, Dr X has had enough. He has been telling people that if you ordered something and have not received it right away you had better file a paypal dispute or you will be out the money and never see the product.
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If you ordered anything from Outlaw that is made by Tim Wisseman file a paypal dispute at once if you still can because you are never going to see the item.

If you ordered something from Outlaw that Dr X makes, please contact Dr X at once to find out the status of your order and if there is any hope of ever seeing the item you ordered as there is a strong possibility that the order and payment was never passed on to Dr X.
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On Dec 28, 2017, cocomax wrote:
There is something weird going on at outlaw, if you look at the Witch Box page it says 11/26/2017 ships in one week, each box is hand made and aged by Tim Wisseman. I can tell you that is all flat out wrong. Tim Wisseman does not build anything for Outlaw. . .


Yikes. I do believe that is actionable. I am heartbroken. But...the genius of Tim's work lives ON! I have not dealt with Gemini yet. But, I CAN tell you, if you have an idea, run it by Tim! His "CAN DO" approach is refreshing! Want a good example? One word: Etherica.

Doug
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2009 California Civil Code - Section 1770 :: Chapter 3. Deceptive Practices

1770. (a) The following unfair methods of competition and unfair or
deceptive acts or practices undertaken by any person in a
transaction intended to result or which results in the sale or lease
of goods or services to any consumer are unlawful:
(1) Passing off goods or services as those of another.
(2) Misrepresenting the source, sponsorship, approval, or
certification of goods or services.
(3) Misrepresenting the affiliation, connection, or association
with, or certification by, another.

(5) Representing that goods or services have sponsorship,
approval, characteristics, ingredients, uses, benefits, or quantities
which they do not have or that a person has a sponsorship, approval,
status, affiliation, or connection which he or she does not have.
(6) Representing that goods are original or new if they have
deteriorated unreasonably or are altered, reconditioned, reclaimed,
used, or secondhand.
(7) Representing that goods or services are of a particular
standard, quality, or grade, or that goods are of a particular style
or model, if they are of another.

(9) Advertising goods or services with intent not to sell them as
advertised.
(10) Advertising goods or services with intent not to supply
reasonably expectable demand, unless the advertisement discloses a
limitation of quantity.
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Well dang, I just made the mistake of ordering a Hobbs Box for a show I have in a little over a month. Looks like I need to find a new PK bell/box.
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