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Furniture Elite user London 415 Posts |
Hi guys,
What is the quickest way you can use to cull 4 cards, lets say the 4 aces, to the top of the deck? Please mention the name of the method where can be learned. Thanks |
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Rimbaud Loyal user Saint Louis 291 Posts |
Hofzinzer Cull, Card College (among others)
Cull De Stack, John Bannon, Dear Mr. Fantasy
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Shodan Special user Isle of Man 663 Posts |
If you're not specific about the 4 of a kind you can combine the probability cull (I learned it in Allan Ackerman's "Las Vegas Kardma") with a spread cull to control 4 of a kind pretty quickly.
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Bobby Forbes Inner circle virginia beach, VA. 1569 Posts |
Kostya Kimlat's "roadrunner cull" is the fastest by far. Get his dvd, best source for the cull IMO
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
It is my eternal belief that any sleight must be selected in accordance with the context of the trick.
Spread Cull is not difficult to do very fast, but it is very difficult to justify spreading all cards. If you are going to 'Spectator Cut the Aces', Culling the Aces just before doing the trick is ridiculous. Maybe it is a good idea to do a trick in which spreading all cards seems natural. After that trick I would do the trick with culled Aces. Maybe I will post some examples of such concept in my thread "Today's Finding". Hideo Kato |
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
Kato-san is right - if you master a certain cull, the speed comes automatically. Especially if you only want to cull up to four cards only, the discussion on methods seems to be academic.
When we talk about a full deck separation, then some methods offer advantages. But again, we might be talking about max. 20-30 second difference. It is more important to justify the action of going through all cards. I usually do it in the beginning - under the context of removing the jokers from the pack - or while searching for a certain card or cards. Another criteria is the deceptiveness of the cull. Is it angle proof? Are the moves natural? and so on . . . Andy
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Furniture Elite user London 415 Posts |
I heard a long time ago about Tamariz' favourite method, but maybe someone can she some light on this./
For instance if peek the top card and then go with the cull you just need to cull 3 cards to the top. let me know your thoughts |
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
May I ask what you are going to do after culling four of a kind to top?
Hideo Kato |
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Uli Weigel Inner circle Berlin, Germany 1478 Posts |
There's a cull in John Mendoza's "The Book of John", aptly called "Quick Cull". It's not only fast, it's also probably the easiest cull to get four of a kind to the top. The move is fairly deceptive, if you do it casually between tricks.
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
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Ben Train Inner circle Erdnase never had 4639 Posts |
Marlo's prayer cull was designed to cull four cards, and I use it and a hofzinser HEAVILY in my work.
I think though that one of the best and most underused culls is from Erdnase... I won't say which one though. Ben
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Furniture Elite user London 415 Posts |
Uhmm.. I am quite interested in Marlo´s cull as I normally use Hofzinser.
Where can it be learned? |
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antonio123 Regular user Croatia 138 Posts |
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Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts |
Harry Lorayne's 4 card cull is great and fast.
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JMAC Regular user 165 Posts |
A good fast cull is practiced cull. The roadrunner dvd is outstanding.
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Tim Jahn Special user South Florida 911 Posts |
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the roadrunner DVD?
Is it still being sold? Thanks, Tim
Andrew, (ASW)
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Cull Down- Doc Valles.
Apocalypse. |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
That's it - it's the only cull I use - have been for decades, since publishing it in APOCALYPSE. I've taught it in a few of my books - quite often with different handlings to accomplish different results.
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kaubell New user 90 Posts |
Faster (or should I say smoother) way to cull 4 cards is to cull random card at beginnin and after that cull the 4 cards.
Usually culling first card can have little bump stop motion, so I prefer to cull random card first to under the spread and use that to make other cards culling easy/faster to pick. Its not really special method but its worth trying out to speed up regular cull. |
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Glenn Morphew Elite user Chicago 486 Posts |
@Kaubell
I believe using a "slider" card is correctly attributed to David Solomon.
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