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Howzaat
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I'm interested in the 'Card on ceiling' trick by Michael Ammar. Does anyone have it and if so, is it a good trick to purchase?

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This effect is best suited for restaurant magic. The card stays up there pretty much until someone makes an effort to get it down (gravity virtually shuts off), because Michael Ammar's Magic Wax is very, very strong. If you do it somewhere public, you will most likely need to get it down yourself, and whoever you performed for will see the gimmick.

They are amazed that their signed card is stuck to the ceiling after being put into the center of the deck, and the deck then being rubberbanded. While they know that you obviously used "something" other than magic to get it to stick, people usually respond extremely well to this one.

But, if you are just looking to perform it for friends and such, it is still a good value at only $10 or so.
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It is a great trick and I would use Ammar's wax, as Dulcimer stated above. His wax has the right consistency to hold the card there a very long time.

IMO as well as others (Including Ammar) you should not perform this effect as part of or even as a set with the ambitious card. The less they know you can bring a card to the top at will the better the effect will play.

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I agree. I've done this literally hundreds of times and it blows people away. I never attempt to get the card down and with the exception of one venue, no one else does either.

I was a student at Notre Dame a while back and used to do this a lot. Most of the buildings had a card on the ceiling. The most notable was the Golden Dome (our main building). I put a card on that ceiling about 8 years ago. The building went through a multi-million dollar renovation. The workers completely re-did all the ceilings. To my surprise, they took my card down...re-did the ceilings... and then put my card back up on the ceiling. How cool is that.
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On 2003-03-04 08:41, emyers99 wrote:
I was a student at Notre Dame a while back and used to do this a lot. Most of the buildings had a card on the ceiling. The most notable was the Golden Dome (our main building). I put a card on that ceiling about 8 years ago. The building went through a multi-million dollar renovation. The workers completely re-did all the ceilings. To my surprise, they took my card down...re-did the ceilings... and then put my card back up on the ceiling. How cool is that.


Dude, that is the best thing ever. EVER. Oh hey, we are going to totally redo this building, and it is costing more money than 99.9% of people make in a lifetime, but we'll put the card back up there when we are done, because someone put it there for a reason....tremendous.
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So, you don't recommend doing the trick at home? I don't think my parents would appreciate a damaged ceiling!

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The wax will sometimes take off a miniscule amount (too small to notice) of some types of ceilings (obviously not wood) when you remove the card.

Why shouldn't you do it at your home to friends or family? Well, what are your parent's or whoever going to do when the trick is over? They'll say, "How did you do that? I know...I'll just get this broom and knock the card down so I can find out for myself." Then the magic is ruined. Home is a good place to practice, but I wouldn't want to perform there.

The same goes pretty much anywhere you have not made arrangements with the owner of the ceiling to keep the source of your powers a secret. If you perform at a restaurant, and the management okays it, then this is great to perform because the cards stay up so long. Regulars return with friends to show them their signed card from months or years earlier.
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Card on ceiling can be a reputation maker. I've worked at one restaurant for nine years and there are about 800 cards on the ceiling. People bring friends in and try to get close to their card. They repainted the ceiling about 2 years ago, took all the cards down and put them back up.
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There isn't anything I can add to any of the above statement. For the money this is a powerful trick. Mike Ammar's wax is the best I have worked with.

Enjoy the effect.

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I have been doing JC Wagner's card on the ceiling. I think it is just as good. Any thoughts on this.
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The best version IMO uses a thumbtack, not wax.
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I have done Michael Ammars card on the ceiling for several years now. I am a school teacher and I have done it in most of the classrooms of my school. The other staff members and students are baffled when they see that card up there. Smile They can't believe it. I would agree w/everyone that Michael Ammar's wax is the best.

My goal is to get it up on the gym ceiling(about 30 feet up!)

I would highly recommend it!

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I really enjoy JC wagners Card on ceiling as well... what a way to make an extra buck Smile

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Thanks to everyone for their posts.....I've decided to buy it - can't wait!

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Are there different versions of this trick? I like the idea of the deck being rubberbanded. Do all versions tie up the deck someway?
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The version that I have seen is by Michael Ammar and uses rubber bands. They are tied around the cards and then thrown up in the air. I found this one on

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Oh man, I've never had this effect but it sounds great! Haha, I'm wondering how you can throw the deck so accurately that that side will be facing the ceiling. Hehe, I think I'm going ot purchase it.
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After a couple cards in the same place, try card IN ceiling. The corner of the card looks like it is actually jammed several inches into the ceiling. More limitations, though, so only for special occasions.
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I could never get the spin right?! carl andrews has a great version of this also.
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HN Review 79: Card on Ceiling – Michael Ammar

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The Card on Ceiling has proven to be one of the most impressive and talked about card effects in the entire realm of card magic!
A signed card is lost in the deck, which is then sealed with rubber bands.
The deck is tossed up to the ceiling (as high as a 40 foot ceiling will work!).
The deck falls back down, but the signed card sticks!
The fact that the card remains on display high above the heads of all who pass by, for months, forces people to notice and comment on it!
It could be called the "perfect effect" because of the clarity of what happens; and the reputation it helps earn for the person performing it!
The Card on Ceiling is one of Michael Ammar's favorite effects. This one effect has earned him more notoriety than any other single effect he performs. It is a real reputation maker.
Michael's method, along with a special formulation developed by Palmer Tilden makes this the best, easiest, and most sure fire way to put a card on the ceiling!
In addition to the Card on Ceiling, you will receive as a bonus the fabulous Coin on Ceiling.
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REVIEW:

Another classic Signature Piece from Ammar. You get a large amount of the necessary “secret gimmick”, and a few coloured sheets with general instructions. The card moves described are very basic, and you will need to know better card techniques.

The effect can only be performed in specific situations (unless you want to expose part of the working), but it’s well worth the wait…

The only card trick I do.

Overall rating: Excellent

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Yeah, this is a great trick. Whether you want to do Ammar's version or not is another question. It's a good bar stunt and consequently JC Wagner and Doc Eason both have good versions of the effect. Mike Ammar took it and made it a signature piece. He does it very well and is a great closer. As has been said before, be careful where you perform it because you may have to get it down. I have heard that Mike Ammar was once, long ago, seen climbing a ladder in an airport with very high ceilings when he did the trick on a dare and the maintenance man didn't take to kindly to him messing up the celing.
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I have been doing the card on the ceiling since I was about 12 years old -- that's almost 50 years ago. I NEVER use wax or a thumbtack.

Take a piece of scotch tape about 6 inches long and wrap it around two fingers of your right or left hand with the adhesive side outwards. You can put this under the edge of your jacket, and it will stay there a long time. Do the rest the way Ammar does it.
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Actually the way Ammar does it is the way Karl Norman does it... Most of the handling in it is Karls. Not to take anything away from Ammar, just for the record.
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I've always preferred visibly using a thumbtack versus secretly using wax or tape or something else that's not seen because the thumbtack "explains" why the card is stuck to the ceiling and is even more magical IN MY VIEW. People don't wonder why the card sticks to the ceiling, which occurs when you're using wax or the like, but instead they wonder how I could possibly throw a rubberbanded deck and a tack at the ceiling and end up actually tacking the selected card to the ceiling. In my view, that's even more amazing. What works best for me, though, isn't necessarily what will work best for someone else and vice versa.

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I use wax for CoC. I use my version where the person thinks of a card. Then I wrap the deck in a rubber band and throw the cards up.... with the thought of card stuck to the ceiling. I think it is more impressive than having the card signed.

Funnily enough, I have had more problems with low ceiling than high ones. I think with high ceilings you make the extra effort in the throw to ensure the cards make it. With low ceilings, I think the tendency is not to slam the deck into it and so I tend not to throw quite as well. Anyone else find this?
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Doc Eason does card on the ceiling through a ceiling fan. Fantastic to watch.
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Jon, is your thought-of version published?

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Larry, it's in my lecture notes.
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That's funny Jon, I have your lecture notes! I'm so backed up on reading and watching magic I haven't had a chance to crack them open!

Larry

Jon, I just read the routine, and the method is exactly what I thought it would be, based on an effect in your video (which is excellent by the way). Great thinking.

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Jon,
I have found as you, there is that subliminal urge to decelerate on the lower ceilings. Unfortunately, I have that same tendency on short shots in golf.
I use wax for my card on ceiling, however, my version uses 2 decks. The spectator selects a card from either of two decks. After signing and inserting his/her card back into the deck I wrap the other deck in a rubber band and toss it to the ceiling while they're holding the deck with their signed card. Their signed card has now travelled from the deck in their hands they're always holding by way of a second deck to the ceiling.
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