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I just saw Steve Forte in action for the first time since I've started studying magic quite some time ago. All I can say is WOW! Talk about talent. I wish I would've been more familiar with his work earlier...

All the Best,
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It's nice to have your eyes opened huh? Steve has the best pair of hands out there - period. Especially when it comes to anything gaming related.

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On 2008-02-18 20:11, DNshade wrote:
It's nice to have your eyes opened huh? Steve has the best pair of hands out there - period. Especially when it comes to anything gaming related.

D


Not quite sure about that.... but he certainly is excellent.
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On 2008-02-18 20:11, DNshade wrote:
It's nice to have your eyes opened huh? Steve has the best pair of hands out there - period. Especially when it comes to anything gaming related.

D


Not quite sure about that.... but he certainly is excellent.


Well I am quite sure - as are the rest of the guys who know. Take my word for it. A whole different level.

D
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On 2008-02-18 20:11, DNshade wrote:
It's nice to have your eyes opened huh? Steve has the best pair of hands out there - period. Especially when it comes to anything gaming related.

D


Not quite sure about that.... but he certainly is excellent.


Who would you say is better?
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I have to agree that Steve is the best. He isn't held in such high esteam from no reason. Steve can do the moves and as of yet there has not been anyone that can top him. That doesn't mean that there isn't someone out there that could but so far there has been no one that can.
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I've never seen Steve perform. How does he compare to my favorite gambling cheat, Richard Turner?
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On 2008-02-18 22:14, Tom Christensen wrote:
I've never seen Steve perform. How does he compare to my favorite gambling cheat, Richard Turner?


...He's better, and he can see.
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Lee Asher told me, just seeing Steve hold a deck in his hand, he was in awe. that's how good Steve is.
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I think those in the know say that Steve Forte is the best, with Richard Turner the next in line. Both men are truly brilliant with a deck of cards in their hands.
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Forte is the man, 'nuff said. I got to meet Richard Turner a year ago and was really in awe of his skill. I can say he's up there, but Steve is a killer.
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Forte is definitely right there, the guy is awesome. I definitely put him up near the top, but the best? again, I'm not sure about that. That's all. Personally I would prefer to watch Ricky Jay with a pack of cards.

Jason

P.S. I also like Steve Freeman and Persi Diaconis
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Steve rocks - but seems to move in fast company
Cards never lie
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From what I hear, I believe the gentlemen Magicfish would rather watch, would rather watch Forte. I also believe the said gentlemen would agree with Damien's assertion.

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I think what the original poster was trying to say is that Steve Forte has the best chops with cards move wise of anyone. Not that he was the best performer. I can see where some would say they would rather watch Ricky Jay perform. I would agree Ricky would be much more entertaining but skill wise Steve surpasses Ricky or anyone else at this time.


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I read that as well
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Forte is an expert. I don't know if I've seen better seconds. And overall I'd say he's definitely one of the best few.
That said, he does work a tad fast. Also, this is a magic forum- specifically cards. And it is my opinion that the greatest exponent of pure sleight of hand with cards on planet earth at this moment is Ricky Jay. He is smoother, calmer. His study of Vernon and Miller come through with every touch. Forte is rock em sockem- Jay is poetry in motion.
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Agreed magic wise Ricky is the man . But otherwise it's Steve no question He's over Ricky and anyone else.
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Look at it this way. Steve's main area of expertise is casino security. He has served as a consultant at dozens of casinos and authored books on the subject. To my knowledge he doesn't really perform for the general public. Ricky and Richard are performers. I'm sure Ricky's main source of income comes from other projects, but come on, the guy has been on Broadway in a one man show that was directed by David Mamet. They are entertainers, and Steve is a technician.

Jason, if you're still reading this, any update on the DVDs? Will you have some at WMS?
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I'm just curious, Magicfish, on what you base your conclusion that Steve always works "a tad fast" in a "rock em sockem" fashion, lacking the smoothness and calmness that Ricky Jay presents. Besides his twenty year old GPS videotapes and his ten year old appearance on NBC's Hidden Secrets of Magic posted all over the Internet, video of Steve's card work is rather scarce, thereby limiting one's ability to objectively critique his overall skill and ability, and accurately compare his work today with others.

I am confident that the members of this forum who know Steve well(including a few who've already posted within this thread) would agree that Steve has the ability to adjust his dealing style and card handling methods to suit any venue and, while he modestly claims not to be a magician, he has the uncanny ability to perform a series of seemingly impromptu, yet well choreographed effects that many magicians would be proud to call their own, and others can only dream of imitating.

Please do not interpret this post to negate in any way Ricky Jay's vast knowledge of both magic and gambling ploys, his wonderful talent or his tremendous performing ability. Ricky Jay, as Steve described him in Paul Wilson's Genii article, is "a talent unlike anyone I have ever met", and is one of Steve's favorite magicians.

I simply feel that it is unfair and unnecessary to degrade one card master's skill to praise another's, especially when they are from different professions.

Bret Maverick
"If all a man can count on one day is pushing up the grass, when I do I'll lay you odds that grass is mine!" - Theme Song For The T.V. Series BRET MAVERICK, by Ed Bruce
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