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Has anyone seen this new dvd? It was suppose to come out long ago and many people said how good it will be, but no one seems to have it in stock yet.

anyone?????
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Here it is: http://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=DA1674

I don't know anything about it, however.
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Looks Interesting
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My suggestion, get Timothy Hyde's Secret Notebook
http://www.achieving.com.au/NB1.htm

Timothy has this as his "Pig Test."
His is the original version of this type brought to entertainment.
It is fun, adaptable, engaging, and of course 7 other fantastic bits of his thinking.

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I'm a Licensed Professional Counselor and I know that psychologists and play therapists do drawings with children called "me and a tree" and you have the child draw themselves and a tree together and it's part of understanding there personality...I wonder if there is any "true" psychology to this effect or just cold reading...hmm.
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I have had this DVD for a few week, and love it. I am not a cold reader, or a mentalist, but just have fun with it, as Rudy Hunter suggests doing on the DVD. He states over and over that this is not rocket science or brain surgery, but based on some simple principles, and in fact, tells the subjects the same thing. And like Brad Henderson's overriding theme in "The Dance", this technique is meant to be helpful and fun for people. I've done about 10 readings, very short ones, as Rudy suggested, and the subjects were fascinated and seemed to really appreciate them. In addition to drawing a tree, the subject is to sign their name. The tree drawing tells one about their creative side of their brain, while the name reveals the analytical side of the brain. Together, these are said to provide a more accurate reading.
I know many people have a problem with Magic Makers, so I hope this thread doesn't get burdened with it, because the DVD seems very original, and will give me a great way to spend a few minutes getting to know someone.

John
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Greetings Steve;
Maybe I can help some here. This was a project that I was going to release for Rudy back in 2000. Unfortunately we kept getting sidetracked and shot a lot of tape but never got it finalized and put out.

Then along came DVD's, We were going to re-shoot everything again, but again it got sidetracked. part of the problem was getting Rudy down here to Pennsylvania and keeping him here long enough for the editing.

Not long ago, the project was sold to Magic Makers and reshot and edited. It was to be released in January of 2007, but again that sidetracking stepped in. It has finally been released. It is very good as John mentions above, and a lot of time and work went into this project. It was not a rush job, and every detail was covered.

Since I had a hand in the project, I do not feel it fair for me to review it, so I will leave that up to others.

While a tree drawing interpretation has been around for some time, it came to light for mentalist in a book titled High Domain by Al Mann. That would be a good resource if you are just starting as well as The Pig Test in Mr. Hyde vol.1.

Draw me a Tree is very complete in itself, and if you are a reader, I would think that you would want to study everything pertaining to your field that you can get your hands on.

O.K. I'll shut up now and let someone else who has watched it do a review.

Thank You John for your comments, I will pass them on to Rudy as he does not visit the Café.

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It sounds similar in concept to Picometry?

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Marty- I just received as a gift your Rainbow Deck DVD (and deck), having already purchased 6 of the Rainbow decks from you directly some months ago. It was great seeing you on the video, and I very much liked your presentations of the effects. They are such good decks, and at the time you offered such a good price, I wanted to make sure I had enough to use for all future routines using different colored backs. Thanks for making the DVD (with Rudy).
Also, since you are passing on comments to Rudy, please let him know that I thought he did a fabulously complete job on the explanation, bit by bit (leaf by leaf?). The topic seemed completely covered, and his demeanor throughout, as well as the demonstrations, were quite helpful to achieve what seems to me to be the proper tone in doing this type of reading.

John
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Greetings Guys;
Thanks for the kind comments, they are most appreciated.

John, I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed the rainbow deck dvd. A lot of time went into that deck of cards. I wanted it to be perfect out of respect for Frank, I know he would have liked it if he were still with us.

I'm happy to hear that you liked Draw Me A Tree, I will pass your comments onto Rudy later this week when we talk.

Just a side note; My youngest son Charles was out this weekend and was doing a couple tree readings. Needless to say he later told me that he got like 11 phone numbers and that he should have learned magic years ago as it is definately a chick magnet????? Ah to be young again, and single.lol

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I would just take being young again, at this point.

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One of the "hats" I wear is as a Jungian oriented clinical psychologist, so the world of symbolism is my main territory. I have a good friend in Zurich who interprets tree drawings for both adults and children, both normal and psychotic. Interpretation of drawings has a long history in psychology, and drawings of trees in particular can yield astonishing diagnostic information about a person. Rudy's technique is psychology-lite, but it also works. I enjoyed the dvd very much.

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Thanx for the reviews, that is what I like about the Café, ask a question - get an answer. I am glad I asked, grabbed a copy yesterday and it is great.
Thanx
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I have the Al Mann book so I may have to check this out. Thanks!
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How old is this DVD? When was it released? It's interesting as it uses some forms of projective psychological test..
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I have to retract some of what I've said here.

I was WRONG!

Draw Me A Tree is a fantastic DVD for giving one-on-one light and short personality readings of a pop psychology type framework. No, it is not new, but the way it is presented is fresh and interesting.

As a reader and one who presnts readings daily, I enjoyed Rudy Hunter's work, organization of the material, and example readings.

It is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

Tony Iacoviello
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Watched it once and it looks good. I have to take some time and watch it when I'm not pressed for time. What I saw I liked.
It's certainly something worth knowing.

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Greetings Guys;
Thank You for the kind comments on Draw Me A Tree, I will be sure to pass them onto Rudy.
Evolve, this has been in the works for quite some time, but has finally seen the light of day so to speak within the past 60 days. The very first one went to a Café member overseas, as he knew about this way back and has been patiently awaiting its release.
So Thank You all again for the nice comments, they are most appreciated
All the Best
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This is a great DVD. I liked it allot. very easy to do too... I didn't expect him to go into such great detail... the dvd is an hour and 50 minutes of tree drawing explanations... its very easy to do too.
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I'm looking forward to seeing this, I like the way Rudy thinks.

I'm sure he covers this on the DVD, but one of the things I always urge people to remember when you do this sort of thing is ...

however "lite" and fun your approach is , some people are going to regard it as "heavy" and treat what you say as very real and very important. So treat it and them very carefully.

One of the great things about the Pig and the Tree is that once you know them, you can really jazz them together. E.G. doing a Sneak Thief type presentation, suggest they draw something "like an animal or something big and recognisable ....".

Chances are out of 4-5 people you'll get at least one animal that you can do most of the Pig readings on and probably a tree to do those readings.

If you want to get a more clinical view of these sorts of projective tests, search up HTP tests ( House Tree Person ) on google.

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On 2008-05-11 14:17, Tony Iacoviello wrote:
I have to retract some of what I've said here.

I was WRONG!

Draw Me A Tree is a fantastic DVD for giving one-on-one light and short personality readings of a pop psychology type framework. No, it is not new, but the way it is presented is fresh and interesting.

As a reader and one who presnts readings daily, I enjoyed Rudy Hunter's work, organization of the material, and example readings.

It is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

Tony Iacoviello


Tony, coming from you this means allot as many Folks respect your opinions on releases.

Draw Me A Tree:
http://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=DA1674
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Have always loved Mr. Hyde's 'Pig Test' ... and could not resist ordering a copy... real excited to see if this will fit an outdoor event coming up in a month...

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Well, I was watching this DVD last night and have to echo Tony Iacoviello's thoughts.

I thought it would be a sort of clever way to do this that wouldn't take any work. That would be fine if you could be convincing.

It's so much more than that. Rudy Hunter ( who I've always liked ) goes into great depth to make you as expert as possible. Even if you didn't perform this, it's a fascinating subject. I had heard of psychologists using this ( I think I read it in Silence Of The Lambs ) but not as an entertainment vehicle

I'm not done watching the entire DVD but am really digging it ( I'm getting back to my 1970's lingo ).
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I thought this was pretty good. However I also thought it's the type of thing that would have made much more sense as a book. Or at least it should have had an accompanying book or ebook.
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After watching this DVD gotta say it is terrific... just love the teaching method and incredible detail that Rudy provides.

IMHO this is a perfect item for one on one but not so much for a large group as the beloved Mr. Hyde Pig Test.

Martini: Please pass along a large "Bravo and Well Done ! " to Rudy from me... excellent video quality and his teaching style are great !

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I'm somewhat surprised that Rudy didn't lecture and only offer the DVD at his lectures ( and for a price that would make you not apt to sell it ).

It's not a trick or a short, clever way to accomplish a reading. It's so detailed, yet simplified for easy understanding. it's an amazing DVD on a very interesting subject and Rudy has made it practical to learn and use. I'm going to devote allot of time to this as I think it's a very special skill that can set you apart from the performing pack. What a way to stand out in a social engagement.
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Sounds interesting, but as allready mentioned by Piers, it reminds me to "Picometry" also.
In "Picometry" you draw a house, a tree, a sun and your sign and you get a interpretation of you relationship to your mother, father and yourself in past and in presence - very interesting.
So, my question is, where is the difference between "Picometry" and "Draw me a tree"?
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I don't have either Draw Me A Tree or Picometry. I'd think Draw Me A Tree imposes less on the spec; so in a brief social setting, it can make an impression of mind reading but require less time. You simply ask the spec to draw a tree vs more objects. I guess both have applications in different venue.
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I do not have Picometry so I cannot speak to it, but I do have a fair idea of what it is. But to be fair, I’ll only speak of DRAW ME A TREE and Timothy Hyde’s PIG TEST. I’ve mentioned both of these fine products elsewhere in this thread.

First, the PIG TEST:

The PIG TEST (which does not have to be a pig) is a fantastic piece of entertainment that can be done one on one, but also as a group piece. It is fun, entertaining, and enlightening. It can be played for one, or 100 (or more). It is in manuscript form as part of Timothy Hyde's Secret Notebook.
http://www.achieving.com.au/NB1.htm


DRAW ME A TREE is a one on one personality reading utilizing the drawing of a tree and the writing of the name. The use of these two different items serves to get a picture of two different aspects of the person. There are a lot of other things that are involved in the process which make it a fun and accurate assessment of where the person is and how she presents herself to others as well as how she is perceived. Rudy Hunter’s DVD is very complete offering a well organized break down of all aspects and a large sample of example readings. It was suggested above by Magicsquared that an accompanying book would be useful, and that is a very good point.

Both of these products are excellent, both cover similar territory, but they approach it for different venue and applications. The PIG TEST is designed for light group entertainment (but can be used for one-on-one), DRAW ME A TREE was designed for a more personal and serious one-on-one reading.

Whichever way one wishes to go, please look at MrHyde’s post above. He knows what of he speaks!

I hope this post helps with some of the questions.

Tony Iacoviello
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