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Magic Arty
Elite user
metro Atlanta
410 Posts
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Posted: May 6, 2008 3:03pm
Just got my Killer chop cup from Frank. Nice cup, decent balance, looks harmless, handles nicely.
I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of this cup for the price I paid. Frank was great to work with, and very complying to my requests.
There is an "earthy" feel to using a leather cup....(ok, that sounds wrong!) but the fact that there is no metal involved puts the specs (I believe) onto a safe path when working with a chop cup. The off set of the gaff is nice, the strength just right to work with as well, it allows a very fair showing of the ball in cup, and the ability to dump it onto the table if you wish.
This is not a replacement for my Riser Tall Chop cup, but it is a nice substitute when I do not wish to do that particular routine. I found it to be very easy to adapt it in my current routines.
Overall I would highly recommend this cup for any worker looking for a nice cup that is very honest in appearance. Excellent product and service.
Arthur
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Arthur Atsma
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taller8
Special user
599 Posts
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Posted: May 8, 2008 10:23am
I agree, this is a great cup. I use some jumbo toy dice for a final load to tie into the dice cup theme.
The quality is top notch and using two chopped balls makes for a very deceptive routine.
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A.J.
Loyal user
Michigan
274 Posts
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Posted: May 8, 2008 10:35am
Frank is a great person to work with and stands behind everything he sells. His leather chop cups are fantastic in both quality and function.
A.J.
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Magic Arty
Elite user
metro Atlanta
410 Posts
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Posted: May 8, 2008 12:27pm
Hah! I just discovered that both are chopped! thanks taller8
arthur
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Arthur Atsma
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taller8
Special user
599 Posts
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Posted: May 8, 2008 1:50pm
No problem.
It makes everything just a bit more amazing doesn't it? And being able to roll the chopped balls into the cup then out, makes for a nice casual display of innocence.
Could this be chop cup heaven? 
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Magic Arty
Elite user
metro Atlanta
410 Posts
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Posted: May 9, 2008 10:06am
I have had this now for a few days, and I still like it a lot! I am coming up with a completely different routine than I thought I would use. This will not just be a substitute, but something very different.
atsmagic
Arthur Atsma
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taller8
Special user
599 Posts
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Posted: May 9, 2008 10:34am
I use most of Doug Brewers 'Chopped Taters" routine that utilizes a wand for some added fun. I do use the "in my pocket or under the cup" but only to load the dice.
Using a wand or a pen, and letting the spec make the magic happen gets them involved a bit more. And I like to act like it's really the wand that is doing all the work.
It's fun to put the emphasis on a prop and add some silly lines, but also adding misdirection. It's fun to try to really sell the magic in the wand, even if it's a Sharpie.
Franks leather dice cup really adds to that misdirection, and using the two chopped balls makes the magic seem even more impossible.
If you ever want to add a chop cup routine, then I highly recommend Franks Killer Cup.
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Faulkner
Regular user
New Orleans
178 Posts
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Posted: Jun 8, 2008 11:51pm
Fank's Killer Chop Cup...get it. I found mine in the mail yesterday and fell in love.
Frank is OK too, had a question about shipping and he was e-mailing me at 9pm...way after hours. That is service!!!
My only problem is my girlfriend dosn't like me cuddling it in bed...the cup...not Frank.
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Dr Spektor
Inner circle
The frosty North
6458 Posts
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Posted: Jun 9, 2008 10:08am
Its nice indeed!
Produce a lemon and an orange 
And it looks so classy too!
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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mandarin
Inner circle
Orient, Ohio
1806 Posts
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Posted: Jun 9, 2008 9:58pm
Come on guys, give us a reason NOT to buy the cup...
“"Whenever I need to ``get away,'' I just get away in my mind. I go to my imaginary spot, where the beach is perfect and the water is perfect and the weather is perfect. The only bad thing there are the flies. They're terrible!" Jack Handey
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dooblehorn
Regular user
Pittsburg, CA
184 Posts
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Posted: Jun 9, 2008 11:22pm
I just got Frank's Killer leather cup, and his service is fantastic! The quality of his stuff is just excellent, too...
Don't have a reason NOT to buy it! I got it with the jumbo die and the diamond...
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MagicOzzy
New user
Michigan
82 Posts
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Posted: Jun 10, 2008 5:14pm
I love this cup, and it is one of my favorites. It takes a billiard ball perfectly BTW.
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jerdunn
Special user
900 Posts
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Posted: Jun 10, 2008 7:53pm
I know this feature was briefly mentioned above, but the offset m****t in the cup really makes some great subtleties possible.
You can drop the ball in the cup and pour it out into your hand (as you'd expect, given the law of gravity, etc.). But you can also drop the ball in the cup and only apparently pour it out into your hand with the same exact movements. So you can perfectly condition the audience's expectations before doing the chop cup "move."
It's a nice looking cup, too.
Cheers,
Jerry
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Mike Powers
Inner circle
Midwest
1632 Posts
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Posted: Jun 11, 2008 6:35pm
I just got my cup a few days ago. It is totally cool! The offset magnet is a fantastic addition allowing, as mentioned above, the magnet ball to either roll out freely or not at your discretion.
I love the fact that it's a dice cup too. It looks natural and an be used for stacking and then right into the chop cup routine.
I may try to load a die with a magnet so that I can use dice in the chop cup routine. It would have to be done on a soft pad to kill the sound of a die dropping though. Seems like there are some possibilities with a magnetic die.
I think Gary Kurz used to sell a mentalism item using magnet loaded dice...
Mike
Mike Powers
http://www.mallofmagic.com
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dooblehorn
Regular user
Pittsburg, CA
184 Posts
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Posted: Jun 12, 2008 12:24am
Mike, let me know if you find the dice with magnets...I'm working on making some now, as the only decent ones I found were 200.00..
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Danny Diamond
Inner circle
Connecticut
1310 Posts
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Posted: Jun 12, 2008 3:34pm
I've owned this cup for a few years now and I love it. I own several chop cups, and Frank's Killer is my favorite. I used to produce 1 or 2 billiard balls as final loads, and another feature I used to like was how the cup could be squeezed slightly. You could actually squeeze the sides a bit and retain the final load within the cup, if you wanted to lift it slightly to show nothing under it. I used to squeeze the cup a bit as I revealed a billiard ball, and this would results in the ball being lifted a tiny bit off the table then dropping out, creating an audible moment of surprise in addition to the visual climax. The leather cup made the load of the billiard balls silent as well. Great cup!
You don't drown by falling in the water;
you drown by staying there.
- Edwin Louis Cole
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mandarin
Inner circle
Orient, Ohio
1806 Posts
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Posted: Jun 15, 2008 9:22am
OK- This has just become a "gotta-get" for me... Frank- here I come.
Jim
“"Whenever I need to ``get away,'' I just get away in my mind. I go to my imaginary spot, where the beach is perfect and the water is perfect and the weather is perfect. The only bad thing there are the flies. They're terrible!" Jack Handey
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baskitboy5
Special user
Boston
828 Posts
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Posted: Jun 15, 2008 11:37am
I just got this cup a week ago and I am in love with it! So many possibilities with this beauty!!
Adam
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Bill Palmer
Eternal Order
Only Jonathan Townsend has more than
20996 Posts
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Posted: Jun 15, 2008 9:06pm
As possibly the person on the forum who has the most chop cups, I must say that Frank's cups are really fine. I use a leather chop cup when I perform my Renaissance Festival act. I think I'll see if he would be interested in making the cups I used to use in my show.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC
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Jared
Veteran user
Rhode Island
349 Posts
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Posted: Jun 16, 2008 10:04pm
This was a great purchase as I've noted in a previous post. If you're thinking about performing a table-hopping routine this is a great way to go. The cup is lightweight and is therefore more portable, and loading the cup makes zero noise. Workers should be all over this...
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Magic Arty
Elite user
metro Atlanta
410 Posts
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Posted: Jun 16, 2008 11:34pm
Again, I love this cup. Cool to hear that Frank is consistent with others as well. Me thinks I need to go back to his shop and see what else I may have need for!
atsmagic
Arthur Atsma
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majik_1
New user
27 Posts
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Posted: Feb 9, 2010 6:10pm
I"am a leather worker,and would like to try and make my own leather chop cup.is there anyplace that I can get a pattern to do so?
thank you
Donnie
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sas
Regular user
u.k
148 Posts
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Posted: Feb 9, 2010 7:02pm
Sounds a great working chop cup, I will be checking this one out !!
Thanks for the info guys !!
What size billiard ball fits the cup for a final load ?
Cheers
Mark Southworth
www.elitemagician.co.uk
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KirkG
Inner circle
1261 Posts
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Posted: Feb 9, 2010 8:38pm
I would guess their are online patterns available.
I have several of Frank's products and they are all first rate. He puts a lot of thought into the design of his products and several prototypes, so you can be sure what you get from him will work. His pricing is fair and customer service is excellent.
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Dave V
Inner circle
Las Vegas, NV
4192 Posts
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Posted: Feb 12, 2010 3:14pm
It seems an American Pool ball is 2 1/4" That's probably the size I bought when I went to the local store. I have the "beaded" cup from Ambitious Card. It fits nicely in the cup with some room to spare, enough spare room that I can't squeeze the cup and grip the ball from the outside.
"Master technique, then forget about it and be natural."
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jazzy snazzy
Special user
run off by a mob of Villagers wielding
911 Posts
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Posted: Feb 12, 2010 4:04pm
Frank also sells a Stacking Cup for a little more money.
From his photos, I'm guessing it's the one with no stitching around the mouth.
Does anyone have one of these?
"The secret of life is to look good from a distance."
-Charles Schulz
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KirkG
Inner circle
1261 Posts
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Posted: Feb 12, 2010 8:07pm
I do and I love it.
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marknem7
Loyal user
256 Posts
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Posted: Feb 13, 2010 1:54pm
I received a leather cup from Frank just yesterday and, after playing with it for a few hours, now fervently wish I'd gotten one years ago. It's fantastic.
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