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mysticalmike Special user Saratoga Springs, NY 509 Posts |
Ok which 2 colors would you pick for the outside? Then which color would you pick for the inner? It so hard to pick 3 colors. Anyone want to help.
Red Blue Turquoise Green (Bottle) Yellow (lemon) Pink Black White Purple Light Purple (Hot Pink) Orange Gold (school bus yellow) Light Green (Apple) |
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mysticalmike Special user Saratoga Springs, NY 509 Posts |
I was thinking of using red and blue. I just don't know what color to use in side.
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
The Center Silk can be anything from Multi-color to Happy Birthday, to Santa, to "Jolly Roger Crossbones", etc.
The outside silks should be able to hid the color of the inside. Blue and Purple have served well to hid center silks. Blue, Multi-Color Yellow(Center Silk) and Red are the classic colors. Red, Happy Birthday (on Red Silk), red (Ken Scott & Laflin Magic has these.
Dennis Michael
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Dennis is correct on the color necessary on the outer silks to hide the concealed silk. Red, Blue, Purple are all favorites. You can also go with a prepared pocket silk or unprepared as you feel more comfortable with.
Any silk can be adapted to work in the set if a small tail of matching silk color is sewn on. You should also go for heavy silks (8 Momme at least) as they take the strain of pulling the silk out much better. I also have silks on my website or drop me a line if you have other questions. Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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TedLashley Regular user El Campo, TX 197 Posts |
In a particular routine I do which uses a 20th-century silk set, I've always used a rainbow (diagonal stripes) for the center silk, with hot pink & rich royal-blue for the two outer silks. The blue silk is the one that conceals the hidden silk.
I've found this color combination works well indoors and outdoors, and the rainbow is quite a contrast to the other two solid-colors. Of course, part of my patter makes references to the blue and pink silks... and the multi-colored one. TED |
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Mike,
The construction of the load area will do a lot to determine this. The cheapest models have a diagonally folded gimmick that can flash the load at the bottom. "See through" is worse with single thickness silks of very contrasting colors. The best models of 20th Century Silk allow you to show all silks as full squares. They are multiple layers of silk to avoid "see through". They appear flat (not lumpy). They have hems on only three sides to avoid picking up the silk incorrectly and accidentally dumping out the load. There is no need for the forth side (bottom) to be hemmed because there is no raw edge there! The silk is folded and permanently creased on that edge and looks hemmed. (All raw edges are hemmed.) Due to the construction of the better models of 20th Century Silks, lighter colors are not the problems they are for the cheaper models. Remember that with only one layer of silk "see through" is as great a problem for light colored and printed silks as loads as are the light colored on the ends. Of the above listed colors, even white and yellow work well in the better quality prop sets. (Red and White, Green and White, Blue and White, Purple and White as well as Black and White are not rare in the better prop sets.) Don't forget to consider the colors of your costumes too. Visibility counts! What I actually use most are the DoveLite Purple, Red or Flag Blue silks with a multi color (red, green, yellow and purple) diagonal in the middle. My costumes are usually black, very dark blue, gray, tan or silver. For special occasions the middle silks I use are Happy Birthday, Thank You, The End, Good Bye, or Zebra stripes. The ends are usually Green, Red, Gold, Purple or Blue. For corporate magic they are always the company colors. 20th Century Silks are definitely one of those props that pack flat and carry a real punch. You'll have many sets before you are through. I hope that you enjoy them as much as I do. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
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themagiciansapprentice Inner circle Essex, UK 1381 Posts |
Mine are purple outer and yellow inner, they seem to work best against my black backgrounds and are visible from quite a distance
Have wand will travel! Performing children's magic in the UK for Winter 2014 and Spring 2015.
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TedLashley Regular user El Campo, TX 197 Posts |
Bob:
You mentioned the "better models" which allow you to show each silk as "squares", and use multiple layers with hems on only three sides. I'm not familiar with this type of construction... who manufactures these? Who sells them? TED |
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Michael Messing Inner circle Knoxville, TN 1817 Posts |
Ted,
Bob sells them! I have a set of his 20th Century Silks and they are beautiful. Just email him or PM him. Michael |
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
Excellent advice from everyone! I really don't have much to add, except to say that I normally use a tie-dyed center silk (blue/yellow/red) with two, dark blue silks. Bob brought up an excellent point about using colors to match the engeagement whenever possible. You can use silks that match school colors, patriotic colors, company colors, scout colors, etc, etc. As Michael stated, Mr. Sanders knows his silks and he has everything you need....and more!
Regan
Mister Mystery
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
I also make mine with actual squares.
Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Our gimmicked silk from DoveLite Silk is not made just from squares. The outer silk is a rectangle 18" x 36". That way only the three open sides are stitched in any way and there is no open bottom to flash or reason to pick it up wrong and dumping out the load. Yet it can still be shown as square.
Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
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jimhlou Inner circle 3698 Posts |
I had no idea there was so much technical information on the 20th century silks!
I bought a set that had the open bottom - after flashing once in a show, I sewed it up. It looks OK as long as you keep it draped. Mine are red, yellow, and blue - Am I the only one that uses three different colors? Jim |
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Mumblemore Inner circle 1429 Posts |
Just got the best 20th Century silks from Bob Sanders. PM him. He has bright, beautiful colors and good prices (he apparently imports from Far East and sells to dealers - but you can also buy direct from him and get the best product I've ever seen, plus get a great price). He also sews his 20th Century silks, unlike some who sell three silks and ask you to "hide the middle one between the other two."
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
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On 2008-10-02 09:08, jimhlou wrote: Jim, You are not the only one using multiple colors. Especially in corporate magic, we try to stick to company colors. There is a handy way to cheat at this. Use the same colors on the ends and use a company logo silk in the center. Now just who would do that? LOL! Enjoy your silk magic. It shows! Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
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MikeDes Inner circle Montreal 1174 Posts |
I had a set custom made by Richard Hughes a few years ago because I wanted specific colors. Best set I ever had. I still use it today!
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Mike,
I think it surprises people to learn how long good silk props last. There are silks in my act that have been there over thirty years and still look good. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
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Michael Taggert Special user Fredericksburg Virginia 656 Posts |
I have one of Bob's and a spare. Mine are flag blue and Yellow. They match the colors in my show to tee. They well made and the impact is awsome.
While you are all getting one them from Bob get a "THIS" as well. |
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mysticalmike Special user Saratoga Springs, NY 509 Posts |
Everyone has convinced me to buy from Bob. I am stilling think about the colors. It just seem so hard to get just the right color. Me I have no idea about colors. I just keep watching listen to you pros.
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Michael Taggert Special user Fredericksburg Virginia 656 Posts |
When selecting colors you should develope a color palate for you show this helps in the selection of things like silks and flowers etc.
I use a lot of blue and red in my costumes so yellow is the accent color of choice for me. I also have a selection of purple and gold. If the eighties ever come back in style. |
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