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Cain Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 1553 Posts |
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On 2008-11-08 22:25, Jonathan Townsend wrote: I tend to agree, and I enjoy sarcasm more than the next person, but this is the equivalent of a sixth grader saying, "here you can have this dollar... NOT! Muahahahahahaha." If the thread title had been truer to the content, most people probably would have passed. Moreover, instead of creating this thread the original poster could have just sent me a PM critiquing my video!
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Nerdini Loyal user Little Rock, Arkansas 223 Posts |
Personally, I think Mr. Lorayne is spot on in his opinion about this video.
In addition to a lot of good magic postings, Youtube has become a vast wasteland of pubescent video camera owners presenting some truly awful magic tricks---and equally as bad, exposing some quite good ones. The only people they are fooling are themselves and maybe someone of the same mentality that happens to watch their misguided crappy videos. This is antidotal of course, but it does help drive home a view shared by both Mr. Lorayne and myself. I work part time in the local magic shop, and just last week this kid wanders in and starts to browse. He looks young---and a bit vacuous I might add, but I guess he had to be 17 or 18 since he drove up to the shop in a car. (A junker, I might add!) I ask him if there is anything I can show him. He says that he is just looking, but then he suddenly asks me if I watch Youtube. I respond that I do occasionally, but of course I don't voice any opinions one way or the other. I'm fiddling with a deck of cards at the counter at the time, and he asks if he can borrow the deck to show me something he's learned on Youtube. I give him the deck. He proceeds to take 3 red cards and 3 black cards out and asks me if I am familiar with oil and water. After alternating the three reds and black, he turns them face down and proceeds to start some god awful mish-mosh of moving cards from bottom to top while doing a terribly sloppy glide move. All the while he is making senseless patter about how he just loves how cards work. It took what seemed like ten minutes for him to sloppily maneuver the 6 cards, but some how he managed to get them separated. Unfortunately, I had almost lost the will to live long before the denouement; however, he acted like he had accomplished a miracle. I said I was confused. I took the cards from him and said is this what you meant. I did one of those stupidly simple 6 card oil and water effects that require no moves after you seemingly alternate the colors. (I think it's a Marlo version where you secretly switch out the center adjoining red and blacks of the spread as you turn the cards down and separate the hands. You then deal the cards alternatively with each hand into a single pile) The trick is done at this point, and I did nothing else but let him turn over the packet himself to see that the cards had separated. The look on his face was priceless. It was like he was a caveman who was trying to tell me about fire and I had just shown him a Zippo lighter. He stared at the cards a minute and then got very red in the face. He suddenly looked at his watch---then mumbled something about having to be somewhere, and almost ran out of the store. I can only offer this up as a perfect example of some of the crappy magic that kids are posting to, and learning from, Youtube. If I was a layman, after seeing this kid's "trick", I wouldn't blame anybody from running away screaming if anybody else ever offered to show me another card trick. Cheers
"I was in love with a beautiful blonde once. She drove me to drink; that's the one thing I'm indebted to her for"
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in flames Inner circle Toronto 1030 Posts |
That was god awful. Man I hate YouTube for this.
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ggarcia Veteran user San Antonio Tx 395 Posts |
Dreadful....
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
***he drove up to the shop in a car. (A junker, I might add!)***
Don't judge someone by the car they drive! I have a client that is worth in excess of $50 mil who LOVES to go car shopping in one of his beat to sh*t ranch trucks! LOL All the rest of the comments about the video being crappola I agree with! Mick |
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Nerdini Loyal user Little Rock, Arkansas 223 Posts |
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On 2008-11-09 17:38, MickeyPainless wrote: Your client is obviously rich enough to be an exception. My comment was merely an observation; take is for what it is worth. However, I find that generally the old saying that one should not judge a book by its cover to be a load of horse crap. Cheers
"I was in love with a beautiful blonde once. She drove me to drink; that's the one thing I'm indebted to her for"
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Futureal Inner circle 1695 Posts |
The performance on that video was no better or no worse than the typical thing you see at IBM or SAM meetings.
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ggarcia Veteran user San Antonio Tx 395 Posts |
Futureal: LOL....very true...
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Nerdini Loyal user Little Rock, Arkansas 223 Posts |
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On 2008-11-09 19:09, Futureal wrote: It's interesting that you brought that up. I belong to the IBM and have attended meetings at the chapters of two different cities I have lived in over the past 20 years. I try to be forgiving, but there are just some people who should pick another hobby. When these poor souls get up to perform, I usually just feign the need to visit the restroom because I know if I set there and watch them it is going to be like hearing fingernails scratched across a chalkboard. I never have the nerve to do so, but in my mind I always want to stand up and simply say: You totally suck at magic, please seriously think about switching to stamp collecting or some other hobby that better suits you. Egads, I'm such a magic snob, but then I guess I'm proud to be so!
"I was in love with a beautiful blonde once. She drove me to drink; that's the one thing I'm indebted to her for"
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
Nerdini,
Dude, I put a LOL at the end of my post to indicate humor! As for not judging a book by it's cover I have found to be pretty spot on! What ya see ain't always what ya get! |
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Sazalfram Regular user 163 Posts |
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On 2008-11-09 16:13, Nerdini wrote: You just proved my point. Well performed magic works. Had there been layman there to see both performances. They would of not understood the young boys performance but enjoyed your performance. Please explain to me how his bad performance or the bad performances on YouTube hurt magic. You also inspired this young boy to be better. It's to bad he has learned bad magic. But him performing bad magic does not hurt people who perform good magic. All we can do is try to help these youngsters and head them in the right direction. If they really want to get good at magic they will soon realize they are not learning the correct way. |
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Nerdini Loyal user Little Rock, Arkansas 223 Posts |
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On 2008-11-09 20:36, MickeyPainless wrote: Understood! Cheers
"I was in love with a beautiful blonde once. She drove me to drink; that's the one thing I'm indebted to her for"
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Nerdini Loyal user Little Rock, Arkansas 223 Posts |
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On 2008-11-09 20:37, Sazalfram wrote: No, I am not so certain of that! In fact I think my example may actually refute your point. This dufus kid walked boldly into a magic shop thinking he could fool me with something he picked up off of Youtube. ---but instead--when I showed him the "Zippo lighter" version of his crudely performed fire trick he did not say "how did you do that?" or even hang around to see more: instead, he simply ran off and vanished into the night. If he ever wanders back into the shop I will let you know. Cheers
"I was in love with a beautiful blonde once. She drove me to drink; that's the one thing I'm indebted to her for"
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
Cool!
Cheers backatcha, Mick |
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Hansen Special user Down Under 653 Posts |
On the positive side: 1/ The cards looked nice and in good condition; 2/ He was kind enough to say "Peace" at the end, reminiscent of a gangster rapper; 3/ He can do fancy fans; and 4/ His English pronunciation is better than the vast majority of people in China. Other than those points, it was beyond crap.
P.S. I'm sure the little fella will find my review of his "cool trick" helpful. P.P.S. Oh, and I'd recommend he check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3AsG0YG4oo P.P.P.S. Glad I could be of assistance. The world is now a brighter, better place. My work here is done. Onwards and upwards. |
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tgold65 Regular user 194 Posts |
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On 2008-11-09 19:09, Futureal wrote: Yes, but at least at an IBM or SAM meeting, someone can help the kid out. And also, at least at the IBM or SAM meeting, the kid is getting experience actually performing in front of an audience. This idea of filming yourself and then exhibiting it on the web is bizarre to me. I understand filming yourself and watching it for improvement, or even asking some magician friends for help, or even putting something out there to try to drum up some business. But this young man needs some face to face instruction. I see some great value to the web, but it still doesn't replace personal interaction. |
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Sazalfram Regular user 163 Posts |
Nobody has answered my question.
In what scenario or under what circumstances would this young mans video on Youtube hurt magic? I'm a 25 year professional and I can't think of any. But there are people here who think we need to summon forth the powers of god to help us, because these type of videos will kill magic. If this is the case then there must be very obvious ways that this boys video is hurting magic. So please give examples. Cause I ain't seein' it. I admit these kids are a social annoyance but are they hurting me or magic as a whole? ...No. But there is one thing they do. They make guys like us who know what we are doing look freakin' awesome! |
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The Amazing Noobini Inner circle Oslo, Norway 1658 Posts |
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On 2008-11-09 23:25, Sazalfram wrote: I agree. Myself I find a lynch mob of seasoned grumpy professionals attacking a child more than a little unpalatable. If this is how magicians start behaving when they go pro then I shall be glad to remain a hobbyist.
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WilburrUK Veteran user 389 Posts |
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On 2008-11-09 19:09, Futureal wrote: I don't know what your local meetings are like, but I never had to watch anyone perform in bed!. errr, I mean... forget it. |
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Mark Ennis Inner circle Raleigh, NC 1031 Posts |
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On 2008-11-08 21:51, thumbslinger wrote:... hey, it's better then him smoking dope... Wrong. Smoking dope is cool and it is fun.
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