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Waters Inner circle 2508 Posts |
Friends,
I have has the sincere pleasure of reading the creative works of fellow Café' member, Maxime Nadeau. He travels these green lands under the alias of "Athos". One such creative work of Max's is his fantastic "Deus Ex Machina-An on Stage Mind Reading Experiment", which is an extremely clever and workable Q&A solution. This routine is fully described in Mr. Nadeau's 41 page PDF manuscript. This is how he describes the routine. Imagine… Imagine if you could be on stage without any preparation, pre-show work, electronics, stooges or helpers and that you could give an incredibly accurate reading to three person, involving facts, events, names and characteristics with chirurgical (read: surgical) accuracy? All this without failing… ever. This is all true. While I do not consider myself an expert on the history, nor performance of Q&A, I recognize a great idea when I read it. I am sure many will feel the same. This is what Lee Earle had to say about Mr. Nadeau's routine: "Deus ex Machina is an excellent example of thoughtful synthesis, combining the best of two disparate approaches resulting in a whole that is greater than the sum of its parts. Well done" -Lee Earle, professional Mentalist and Author It is my pleasure to introduce to you, the wonderful and creative works of Maxime Nadeau (I've seen his other work, as well). Maxime's routine is available directly from him, here: http://mental-publications.webs.com/bookreleases.htm With regards, Sean |
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Athos Elite user NADO - Mind reader 481 Posts |
Thank you very much Sean!
I'd like to thanks everyone which are active or not on those boards which helped me to make this work a dilligent work. I know some people have been looking forward for my contributions, here is the first one! Thank you Sean, again, for helping me realise one of my long term goal! Sincerely, Maxime.
NADO
«How much of a gift it would be to really know what someone is thinking of?» - Steeve Blanchet, news anchor, TVA «Here is someone that truly uses his powers for good.» - David Meclomesnil, weekend radio. |
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Floyd Collins Inner circle Ohio 1633 Posts |
I to have had the pleasure of reading Max work. His ability to see more then what an effect can do and then apply clever principles is to be commended, he truly has a creative gift that many only wish they had. If you want a Q&A that is superior to most I have seen then this is the book you should be buying.
Very well done Max,,, very well done my friend. Floyd
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Athos Elite user NADO - Mind reader 481 Posts |
Thanks Floyd,
Very honored of your comments! As well, to anyone that bought the manuscript so far, and those that will buy it will recieve suplements freely later on! Maxime.
NADO
«How much of a gift it would be to really know what someone is thinking of?» - Steeve Blanchet, news anchor, TVA «Here is someone that truly uses his powers for good.» - David Meclomesnil, weekend radio. |
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Colin Inner circle Las Vegas 1355 Posts |
I can't believe that this is not getting more attention! I read this in the wee hours of the morning and it honestly kept me up to complete it. The idea is so simple and straight forward that with practice and well thought out routining this effect will make you appear to be the real thing... and you need NOTHING to do it! Can I also just clear up something that threw me when I read it... nothing is written down either! You choose people at random and start revealing.
Athos has clearly given this a lot of thought and he really now has me thinking about how I will be applying this to my own work! This is a routine for performers, the only people who aren't going to like it are those who only perform for friend's and family... and lets be honest, you'd already know their personal information already anyway. Very well done my friend... this is going to impress a lot of audiences all over the world! Best wishes, Col.
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Athos Elite user NADO - Mind reader 481 Posts |
Thank you very much Colin!
Your words means more than everything! I'm glad you liked it enough to read it up to the ''wee hours'' of the morning . With regards, Max.
NADO
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Y2John Inner circle 1498 Posts |
Wow, such a clever and well thought through/constructed piece, just brilliant... those are my immediate feelings towards 'Deus Ex Machina'.
There is much material that I really enjoy and like, but sometimes I will come across something that really strikes me, that fills me with excitement, and I feel ive really gained something from... 'Deus Ex Machina' is one such thing. The way in which the principles/methodologies are utilized is ingenious, it's simple, deceptive, well structured, has plenty of room for personalization, free flowing, impromptu and propless, has maneuverability, and can stand on it's own as well as be a part of something bigger. Those who only perform for friends and family should probably steer clear as this will be of little to no use to you at this time, though if you are really interested then don't let that stop you as this really is an incredible piece (also those who do solely walkaround/table to table will not really get any use from this at this time, you will learn a fantastic piece, but not something you will use). For those who do perform then I can't recommend this enough, excellent stuff. Cheers for releasing this, I love it. |
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Waters Inner circle 2508 Posts |
It really is fantastic. I agree with all the comments above.
Sean |
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Jay Are Inner circle 4186 Posts |
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
I cannot disagree with my friends and learned colleagues enough.
As a magic trick or mental mind piece, this is a well structured trick. As a Q&A piece (which it is not) or a piece of psychic entertainment, it falls into the category of “magic trick.” It is performer centric and comes across as what it is, a “look at what I can do” stunt. I cannot get into why without giving away the methodology that it is derivative of, and by derivative, I mean that in all definitions of the word. As for the structure of the manuscript, it is well structured, but as pointed out in another thread, in need of serious editing and spell checking. The author is aware of this, yet is still selling the uncorrected manuscript. That is a very telling sign of what to expect from this manuscript. It could just be me as this is what I consider a poor attempt to recreate the type of work that I do, an attempt that fails miserably. And I feel that touting it as a solution to Q&A is misleading at best. Personally, I feel that the author, who is a young performer and creator, should have his manuscript reviewed and edited before release. I understand the want to publish and get your ideas out there, but calling something, something that it is not, and releasing something so full of errors does not inspire confidence or trust, and takes away from the creativity and innovation that you may have presented. Tony Iacoviello |
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Athos Elite user NADO - Mind reader 481 Posts |
Thank you very much for your honest reply the work is being edited at the moment and everyone which bought it will recieve the edited version soon!
sorry for the mischap, it was not intended to be wrong hearted of my part maxime
NADO
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Colin Inner circle Las Vegas 1355 Posts |
It's not my place to get involved with who created what! Athos shared the idea with me last night, however it may simply be the case of independent discovery.
The concept however is genius, and Tony I'm going to completely disagree with you (in the most politest of fashions) because as another professional performer I feel I will make this work and come across as the 'real thing'. If it's not for you I respect that, however it totally suits me and my style and when mixed with Luke Jermay's Touching on Hoy I will have a full 20 minute routine which is totally impromptu and fills the stage as being the real thing! Best wishes, Col.
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
I do agree, the idea behind it is genius. It was genius when David Hoy published it in 1968. It still is. And this idea, blending two of Hoy's published ideas together does make a good TRICK. That is how I see it anyway. But to some of us who do Q&A and do readings, it is like the magician saying he is a sword swallower then placing the trick sword to his mouth. It is a cheap imitation that does not even come close to the real thing. Q&A is about questions, answers, and people, there is none of that here. Readings are about the person being read, not the person doing the reading, that does not occur here either.
Yes, I also can see how someone could take the framing and make a nice performance piece out of it. And Col, I am sure you can and will do that. (But to be honest, someone could toss you a can of sardines and you would entertain an audience for 20 minutes with them.) As I said in the other thread, I put this manuscript in the same category as Emotional Intelligence by Luke Jermay. Those who like that type of work may enjoy this. Not everything is for everyone, and this is not for me. Tony |
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Athos Elite user NADO - Mind reader 481 Posts |
Ok here's a Heads up,
I'm not going to be whining about my own condition to not be able to deliver the material because of ''x'' or ''Y'' reasons, I want to keep my integrity and my will to produce something of the most excellent order, I am currently talking to Gabe Abelson to have the work edited, it might take a few weeks, however I WILL NOT LET ANYONE DOWN IN ANY GIVEN OCCASION, and everyone which paid for the work will recieve the second edited version, as well the product might go on a re-release. I for now can't give more information, the work is temporarly unavailable, Sorry for the HUGE mischap I have done, I have been blighted by the aspect of being able to have a work published that I forgot the most important elements, I am very honest and I tell you that this is my first published material; I got to learn from my errors, and not run away hiding (like we know some people being able to do so) I would be VERY happy if everyone could write down their concerns about the work, however only the one's which GENUNELY bought the work. With all regards, Max.
NADO
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Gabe is a great one to have go through the manuscript. He is an amazing writer and brilliant editor, as well as having a good mind for mentalism.
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Athos Elite user NADO - Mind reader 481 Posts |
Thanks Tony,
I hope I can rectify the situation for you, max.
NADO
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Colin Inner circle Las Vegas 1355 Posts |
Ahhh, so word is spreading on my sardines act...
Tony I need to apologise after thinking about this quite a bit last night. I quickly remembered there is a massive difference between a Q+A act and a 'Thought Reading' act. The way I present this is probably 90% Thought Reading and 10% Q+A (by Q+A I mean readings). I am aware that getting people to stand up in an audience, it would be just as much work to genuinely 'read' them as it would be to perform DEM, however the way I will be using this is to reveal specific pieces of information... thought of words, phone numbers, names of pets... all of which ties much closed to that of a 'Thought Reading' act as apposed to genuine Q+A. So I do appreciate what you are saying. I still love that we all have our own opinions for what we like and dislike, otherwise we'd all be performing the exact same stuff in the exact same way... where is the fun in that! Very best wishes my friend! Col.
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Floyd Collins Inner circle Ohio 1633 Posts |
Max, you should be commended for taking the steps you have and how you have replied to others concerns about your work.
For the record in case anyone does not know this, Max native language is French, this is not to say he does not understand English he does quite well for a second language but it also adds to why this book has some minor gamer and framing issues. I am positive if he wrote this in French we would not be having any problem's with his writings. So before anyone assumes Max does not care and just puts out sloppy work, please keep in mind the language barrier he has to overcome to publish this work for us Some editors like Gabe cost to have the work taken care of translators cost even more. I can see why for a PDF download it may be less desirable to have it edited by a professional like Gabe just because of the cost. Yet Max is doing this on the recommendations of the reviewers. All of my work goes to Nathan, and a few others before I release it because I know writing is not something I do very well at all. Max you taking this step says a lot about yourself and your care and love for the art you create. Now as for Tony comment about it not being a Q&A. To me it fits my need for a Q&A, trick or not for the record, Maxime states in the book that this is not a true Q&A and more a reading. I on the other hand feel it makes for a much stronger Q&A then I have seen in a very very long time. For me a good Q&A would require no billets, one could ask me a question, and I would in return tell them the answer to their question. With Max methods this is very possible with little chance of failure. Trick maybe, psychometry tests perhaps more so Tony is dead on in this regard. The concepts in this method and the deviation of the facts "FOR ME" does not make this a trick, yet more so a method to a no prop needed outcome. When I think of a trick like Luke’s EI I think of the props he uses to accomplish the effect, yes it is only cards but still with Max method there are no props. Once more bravo to you Max for taking the constructive advice from Tony and others to make the needed improvements. Cheers Floyd
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Max has shown what he is made of over the past few days. he has handled all issues, concerns, and comments with dignity. He has my utmost respect and admiration on this.
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Athos Elite user NADO - Mind reader 481 Posts |
Thanks Tony,
Your words goes right down to my heart, as my intent for this publications (and the upcoming ones) was to show that I truly CARE about what I release, the reviewers opinion means a lot to me and are all read and considered, much of the comments that has been done have been made by mentalists which are far greater than me and seeing that they have the interest and the openess to let me a chance to re-edit the work is going right down to my heart. Tony, I totally agree about this work not dilligently being a Q&A type of effect in it's base, the problem was that it was originated from my a Q&A act that I have created for my own use, and somehow the title of Q&A act followed, it's my error and I admit it. For those who bought the first edition of Deus Ex Machina (before it has been made not available) will recieve a free copy of my next release ''Minded'' which is going to be edited of course . With all regards, Maxime.
NADO
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