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Any idea were I can find a book that teaches
this move thanks Smile
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I imagine this would be difficult to learn from a book but it is on the Jeff McBride Card Manipulation Video series. Jeff says his version is different than the original because he misread it.
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I believe there is a description in Daryl's Confessions of a Puerto Rican Gambler.

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There is an explanation in "The book of John"
by John Mendoza.
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How does this differ from the Ravelli 'Pop-out' move as described in the Card College series?
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The Ravelli pop-out uses just a slight difference in handling to achieve nearly the same thing. It (the Ravelli) is also easier to perform but doesn't look quite as magical IMO. Also it doesn't require as much set up as the Piet-Forton move.

After all that I guess they're more different in method than I originally thought.
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Diamond Jim Taylor has a simple way of doing this on his video "pocket full of miracles" It uses a kelly bottom replacement.
I learned mine from the McBride and still use it today, BUT I might start using the easy way?
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On 2002-03-19 11:00, Burt Yaroch wrote:
I imagine this would be difficult to learn from a book but it is on the Jeff McBride Card Manipulation Video series. Jeff says his version is different than the original because he misread it.


It is not difficult to learn from a book; nor is any card sleight or effect if your reading comprehension skills are where they need to be.

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I went to Piets house to ask him to show me the move but he`d popped out.Oh well Smile
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This is taught with proper credit from the originator (and with excellent photo illustrations) in Frank Simon's "Versatile Card Magic".
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You can find it on p219 of the complete 'Epilogue'. It is very knacky, and takes a while to get clean, but entirely worth the effort. In my opinion it's one of the most beautiful card revelations. I'd say that the dynamics behind the sleight are very different from those of the Ravelli move, although the effect is not dissimilar.

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I believe it is also taught in Jon Racherbaumer's "Card Finesse", provided you can track down a copy of the book.
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Yes, it is on P50. A great card book.
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There is also an alternate handeling on the move in a book called "Modeus Operandi". I forget the author. Again, provided you can find the book.
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I learned in "The Gen" magazine. Wasn't hard at all to learn from text. The Frank Simon description is very good. The Mendoza description includes a couple of key points that ensure the move looks magical and "juggly". Piet's original description looks magical and has a great application of the move.
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There is also an alternate handeling on the move in a book called "Modeus Operandi". I forget the author. Again, provided you can find the book.


Jack Carpenter is the author and it is an excellent book that contains Mr. Carpenter's take on some classic plots and some great gambling routines. He also explains his version of Steve Draun's midnight shift and the Elhers shift.
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There is also an alternate handeling on the move in a book called "Modeus Operandi". I forget the author. Again, provided you can find the book.


The author is Steve Hobbs. The magic, Jack Carpenter's and the publishers is Steve Minch of Hermetic Press. Jack's handing is entirely different in that the card appears face up but begins face down. There is not need to reverse the card before doing the move.
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that ensure the move looks magical and "juggly".


That should have read "that ensure the move looks magical and NOT "juggly".
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I don't know what the rules on posting websites is, but theres a new one by mike robinson and another guy jamie who teach sleights and tricks for cheap. I know mike personally, he usually attends the FFFF convention and works on holland america cruise lines... scary talent. PM me for more info, or let me know if I can post the link
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Thanks for naming the author. Credit where credit is due. I prefer Jack Carpenters handeling because it eliminates the reversed card. It makes it a better utility move for a card reveal.
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Nobody liked my quip about Piet Forton popping out..........Smile
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If it makes you feel any better, I got a chuckle out of it. Co-workers wouldn't have gotten it, but it gave me a giggle.
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JHNelson.........a man of fine taste in humour! Smile
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You have a sense of humour after my own heart Adam. Nothing like dry wit to faciliate a healthy chuckle.
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Off the topic...but any other card trick/move related quips out there.....there must be some folks!
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On 2008-04-07 22:50, zaki_rafih99 wrote:
I don't know what the rules on posting websites is, but theres a new one by mike robinson and another guy jamie who teach sleights and tricks for cheap. I know mike personally, he usually attends the FFFF convention and works on holland america cruise lines... scary talent. PM me for more info, or let me know if I can post the link


I think a link to this would be beneficial for people interested in other sources for this effect (like myself). Here's what I found:

Piet Forton's Pop Out Move
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Has anyone downloaded this vid file (from fasttricks.com)? Was it any good? How would it compare to Daryl or Jeff McBride's explanation?
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On 2002-03-24 23:38, Burt Yaroch wrote:
The Ravelli pop-out uses just a slight difference in handling to achieve nearly the same thing. It (the Ravelli) is also easier to perform but doesn't look quite as magical IMO. Also it doesn't require as much set up as the Piet-Forton move.

After all that I guess they're more different in method than I originally thought.

hi
can this be used instead of the jk hartman pop out move?
and if so, is it easier!??
cheers
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A message from Eddy Taytelbaum, Amsterdam, Holland:

"Dear Mats:

Thanks for you recent mail, There we go again!
In the article of the Magic Café concerning the Piet Forton´s popout move
nobody mentions that the inspirational source is Eddy Taytelbaum.

Look up Epilogue page 219 where Piet writes about my influence on the move.
This was the start of our friendship that still lasts to this day.
Although his move is far better then mine, he never fails to mention my influence. In an issue of the Magischewelt devoted to Pete he writes extensively about the history of the move. Thanks for sharing! Eddy"

http://www.magischewelt.de

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