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Ok, so when I start this effect out, do you guys have trouble getting set up in front of the spectators when performing this effect, I always find there is a flash of the card when certain folds are done, if you know the effect/method you will know what I mean, is there strong enough misdirection to do the necessary on your part??
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I do it the same way as I do Card Warp. Which makes me come to my next point, I never thought about using the cover card in front of the other card to make my folds in card warp until I watched Gerard's explanation for his handling of Card Warp. Makes my life a lot easier now.
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So basically have the other card in front of yours while you do the sneaky bit
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I haven't done this live yet, because I want to be sure that I have the "move" down with 100% accuracy, but I would think that the focus during the critical moment would be on the spectator as they fold their card, no?
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I think there's probably plenty of misdirection when the spectator folds their card. But, I haven't tried it yet, either.

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I've also been slightly worried about this. But Wayne does emphasise the fact that the "move" must be done quickly and smoothly. This set has only been availible to the public for about 2 weeks now, meaning not too many people have had enough practice to have the move down yet. Except for RIcky Smith, but he is not completely human.
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I've only practiced it so far but this is one that's going to require plenty of it before I go live.
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Is there a video of this effect ??? so we can all see it in action
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This is a great trick. It's going to take some practice though to get it as smooth as Charlie Frye or Wayne Houchin's.
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I use a different handling after first trying the way it is teached on TA. The last move you had to do while the spectator is folding the lady card in half went wrong to many times. I prepare the card completely to the last stadium, hide it second from the top, face up, show these two cards in mechanic grip, hiding with my thumb the dirty work, give the lady to the spectator to sign, fold my card a first time on the deck while still in mechanics grip, then taking it of I do the next folds with my card of the deck. When the spectator does the long fold on the lady card I do the last move on my card which is very easy because it is prefolded. Hope this is clear.
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I have fooled two professional magicians with this. I have two additions for you that really take this to the next level and truly create a stage effect in miniature.

As you know, Charlie Frye uses the great presentation of "Sawing a Woman in Half" with this. This plot adds excellent motivation and provides great clarity to the spectators of what you are doing and WHY. My thought was to draw a lady on the back of the card so you can see her "head" and "feet" sticking out of the "box".

The first problem for me was that I did not like the moment of fumbling figuring out which end was the "short end" of the card after the spectator does the lengthwise fold. Drawing the "lady" on the back of the card after the spectator selects it solves this. The important part of the drawing is what will be seen sticking out of the "box" card, the head and feet.

For the head I fill in the white border with a sharpie at one end, this will be the "hair" hanging down when the lady is in the box. Just below the white border I draw a circle of about a 1/4" diameter centered on the card and add two lines for "closed" eyes and a line for the mouth. The rest of the body is unseen during the trick so draw whatever your abilities allow. The feet I draw are two darkened triangles on each side of the centerline that look like high heel shoes.

The extra setup: The gaffed card drawing is very simple and easy. On the back of the gaffed card in the quadrant that has the long tear, blacken the white border half-way across that end, then draw a half-circle for half of a face and add a mark for an eye and one for the mouth. That's it. As you perform the trick as stated in the orginal instructions this portion of the card is constantly covered during the display and folding of the card. Just be sure when you do the preliminary fold of the "lady" card to make your under-folded short end of the card be the "head" of the lady. Give the card back to the spectator to fold it lengthwise for you as you complete folding the gaffed card. When you take the "lady" card back just make sure the "head" goes to your right, easy with the drawing, and you then perform everything else as per the original instructions.

A few notes, the drawing really sells the fact that you have only one card since they see you draw on the back of their freely selected card right in front of them. When the lady is in the "box" and they see the drawn hair and face of the lady on the gaff they will NEVER suspect that this is a duplicate end. You have also further customized the card with their signature and YOUR drawing, so also add your contact info when you draw on the card to make this a GREAT give-away. Just add your info to the side away from the specatators perspective when the lady is in the "box" or even on part of the face, leaving room for the spectator's signature, of course.

The second addition is to add flash paper to the back of the gaff. Take a sheet from one of the small pads of flash paper. Fold it half twice, once each way. You want your folded flash paper to end up about 1/2 to 3/4" square. Use half a sheet or experiment with your folds if necessary. Stick a small dab of magicians wax to one side right near the corner where all the folds are, this is near the center of the original unfolded paper. Affix this to the gaffed card to the gaffed quadrant with the wax. Place the corner with the wax just below the drawing of the face and orient the free edges of the folded paper right next to the tear in the gaffed card. Trim the paper, actually tearing creates a frayed edge that will blend in with the torn edge of the card really well, or adjust your folds to fit in the space between the torn edge and the face so that the flash paper will not show when the gaff is folded to substitute for the "lady's" "head".

The addition of the flash paper stuck to the card is, again, hidden on the area of the gaffed card that never gets seen by the specators. Fold and handle the gaffed card as per the instructions and the flash paper will remain hidden. Once you are ready to restore the "lady" just touch the flash paper to a lit candle or match and "Voila!" you've added quite a touch of theatrics to your staging of this classic of magic in the miniature!

Play with it just a bit and I think you'll be greatly rewarded!

Thank you Charlie Frye for a wonderful effect!

Magical Regards,

Bo
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Where can I find more information on this effect?

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It's on the True Astonishment DVD's.
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Thanks for the info.

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Where can I get the true astonishement dvd
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Is this the same effect being taught on TA set?
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On 2009-07-22 16:50, MarvinWang wrote:
Is this the same effect being taught on TA set?


Yes.
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On 2009-07-22 15:31, magicguy82 wrote:
Where can I get the true astonishement dvd


HERE
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It's been released on its own part of the vault as a download.Very good but will take a lot of practice not to flash.Like it a lot though.
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