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eb02 Special user 680 Posts |
Hi
I have the original from Harris magic from Sweeden. I bought it at FISM in Sweeden and never used it. If you are interesting please PM. I think there is a movie on Hocus Pocus site.
Eran Blizovsky
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Roodsnavel New user the Netherlands 42 Posts |
Hi,
I have a problem, I got the cube-a-libre from a friend, but a few pages from the manual are lost, Do anyone have the instructions for me? the sequence for buiding up the stacks of cubes makes me dizzy. I hope so.
Greetings from Holland
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Stellan Special user Sweden 580 Posts |
Hello again Rusell!
Now it is five months later. It would be interesting to know what happened with your intentions. Did you get a set? Did you find a routine? Did you perform it? Is it in your show? What happened?
"There is no reality, only perception."
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JNeal Inner circle I used to have 999 posts, now I have 1617 Posts |
I think I'm going to build this trick and see how it goes...
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bojanbarisic Elite user Croatia 462 Posts |
Jonathan,
If you are going to build it as Geoffrey Durham wrote it in his excellent book than let me tell you that his measurements are wrong. I was one of the first to get his book and as soon as I read it I sent an email to Geoffrey but it was already too late to change anything in his first edition. Here is what Geoffrey wrote in his reply "You have discovered a serious mistake, which I must put right in further editions of the book. Thank you very much for pointing it out. The shells are 70 mm cubed, but the blocks are 66 x 65 x 70. In other words, the blocks and the shells are the same height as each other. I’m really sorry." Peter Kersten has his own version and that`s the one you can get thru almost any German dealer like Alfred Kellerhof, Stolina.. It is called Das Kubusspiel in German. Many years ago Dr. Peter Kersten put a video on the market thru "The Magic Doctor Promotion" with the same name "Das Kubusspiel". It is a very good video with a solid routine. |
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JNeal Inner circle I used to have 999 posts, now I have 1617 Posts |
Thanks Bojanbarisic...you are amazing!
I found a mail order supply that will send me the pre-cut cubes and I'll build up the top using veneer to bring them to the correct height (to match the shells). These cubes will be solid, but If I like how it turns out , I'll rebuild them hollow for weight considerations. Again, you are always there with the correct information no matter the subject and an asset to this forum Regards- JNeal Posted: Aug 16, 2009 1:51pm Bojanbarisic, My response immediately above to your response is in error. While I still maintain that you are remarkably well informed, in reviewing my thoughts over the last couple of minutes and consulting the Durham material, I now believe the information in the Durham book is correct. I'll send you a PM to explain, rather than bore the casual readers of this thread and avoid having to take the discussion into "secret sessions" or "the workshop"
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Geoffrey Durham New user 30 Posts |
A word of explanation.
Bojanbarisic is right to point out the error in the first impression of PROFESSIONAL SECRETS: A Life in Magic. I was mortified when I saw it, but there was nothing I could do, because the first print run had already sold out in the first six weeks of publication. I immediately put it right for the second print run. Anybody who has bought the book in the last 17 months or so has the right measurements for this detail. So, JNeal, if your book has the words "Second Impression April 2008" on the flyleaf, you have the correct information. |
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JNeal Inner circle I used to have 999 posts, now I have 1617 Posts |
Thanks for "weighing in" on this discussion Mr.Durham! Your material and routine structure is the best I've found in print, altho' I'm sure I'll be modifying it to my needs and personal style once I have the props in hand.
The blocks I'll be using will be 2 and one half inches square (pretty close to the 65 mm size you recommend) because they were readily available, but I've noticed many manufactured sets are about 3 inches per cube. I wonder if you have any thoughts as to the relative merits of a different sized block set. Regards- JNeal
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Geoffrey Durham New user 30 Posts |
JNeal
Thank you very much for your kind comments - I'm delighted you like my Blocks routine. And of course you absolutely must modify it to suit your style! Two and a half inches sounds a good size for the cubes, especially if you can get them pre-cut. What ultimately matters, of course, is not the size of the blocks, but the height and style of the numbers on them. If your numbers are white, with lines about 1/2 inch thick and almost as high as the block, they will be seen in any size of auditorium. I have often done the routine in 1,000 seat theatres and have never had a problem with visibility. One mistake that I have often seen is to make the two sets of blocks different sizes from each other. That seems to confuse the issue somewhat. If the piles are the same size with the same number style, but different colours, that seems to work best psychologically. When you make up the trick and try out the routine, you may find heavy, solid blocks preferable to hollow ones. Their weight tends to be good for stability - particularly at the end, where the whole stack turns magically upside-down. And solid blocks have the great advantage (especially when you're learning!) of being unbreakable. I hope you have a great time with the routine and that it does wonders for your show. |
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JNeal Inner circle I used to have 999 posts, now I have 1617 Posts |
Geoffrey,
(see how quickly I segue from the fawning statement: "Mr. Durham" to the more collegial "Geoffrey"?) Thanks again for taking the time. Most of the rooms I work are 800-1200 seats so its is reassuring to note that the blocks you mentioned when capably lettered, will be visible. As to the weight, I'll factor in your good advice and act accordingly. I agree regarding stacks of mismatched size. I should think that aside from color, the identicalness of the two stacks adds to the impression that the tube could be used on either stack to great effect. We no otherwise of course, but subtle impressions count. Regards- JNeal
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
I have performed this off and on since 1960 when I was gifted an original set. I never liked the 'pretend drunk' patter as it allows for no follow-up effects.
It is a terrific effect if you can develope a better story. My best was after the Enron disaster where I explained how I tested various accountants. I'm currently thinking along the lines of memory test like those silly "mini-evals" psychologists give elder folks. Not sure about using it in a senior center, though.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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JNeal Inner circle I used to have 999 posts, now I have 1617 Posts |
Funsway,
I'm not familiar with the "pretend drunk" presentation, but I agree a better story is needed. Finding a 'hook" that emotionally involves the audience is paramount...otherwise it's just another magic trick.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
A shame there isn't any record of Jan Ballan's routine. He was a semi-pro in San Francisco in the '50s and had a killer routine. He had a catch phrase, saying the Magic Words, "WAM WATSO" he was German with a thick accent. One day I asked him what WAM WATSO stood for in German. He said it wasn't German but Chinese-ish and he didn't know what it meant he just loved the phrase.
Physically he resembles today's Lennart Green, thick glasses and ruddy complection.
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
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On 2009-08-24 13:13, JNeal wrote: With the included instructions for the "Conradi Blocks" is an explanation of "CubaLibra" being arum and Coke drink popular during the Cuban Revolution. The performer drinks these while explaining the numbers and gets everything messed up -- but magic saves him. I've never seen any other routining for the effect written.
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JNeal Inner circle I used to have 999 posts, now I have 1617 Posts |
That presentation is too close in concept to many older multiplying bottle presentations. Thanks for explaining it tho'
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gimpy2 Special user 960 Posts |
Think I will build one of these. I have looked at a couple of them and think the blocks are very hard to handle at the end.The blocks on the German model seem to be about 3 oz. I think if you go to mabey six oz. and felt line the Sleevs it might do the trick.
Any thoughts? Gimpy
Gimpy
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eb02 Special user 680 Posts |
Hi Gimpy
It is very hard to build this cubes. I have a set I bought from Harris magic from Sweeden. I bought it at FISM in Sweeden and never used it. If anyone is interesting to buy it please PM.
Eran Blizovsky
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gimpy2 Special user 960 Posts |
Eran,
Thanks for the warning,but Im pretty sure I can handle it.Just hopeing to get some tips on how to make the cube a libra a better prop or improve on whats been done by others. Gimpy
Gimpy
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nostrings Loyal user Newport News, VA 293 Posts |
Ok I'm curious I perform period magic and I'm wondering if there are any references as o the exact date this was invented and what material the first one was made of.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I don't know, but the first I saw of it was in a published routine by CONRADI. It had to be in the 1920s and from Germany. Marvin "Buma" Burger marketed one of the first sets here in the USA. He named it Cube A Libre.
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