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Daren Inner circle 2051 Posts |
Hiya
wonder if you can help me here, when I am displaying the silver half dollar I have had on mnumerous occasions that they can see something not right with the half dollar, don't want to give anything away here but are there are tips from flashing the certain gimmick when displaying the half dollar? or should I just keep the coins in constant motion to avoid them looking intently at the coins? |
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sleightofhander Special user 618 Posts |
I find this to be a problem with real silver gaffs because of the contrast. Not so much with clad coin gaffs. You could have the spectators looking down at the coin instead of from the side. It depends on the effect though.
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sleightofhander Special user 618 Posts |
I apologize. I was thinking of a different gaff.
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
It is less noticeable with clad coins!
It's all about prop management and the orientation of you gaffs! Using a mirror to adjust your angles will help but IMO video works best! Mick |
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Daren Inner circle 2051 Posts |
What do you mean by clad coins, dull coins? and the underside of the gimmick maybe a little tarnished will help I suppose?
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
Clad coins are the post 1964 non silver coins we have now!
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
I too have the same issue... To the point where I don't do this effect. Which is sad the effect is great I just cant shake my angles. And I don't want to perform this ala Coinone angle...
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
If you take a file and file down the milling a bit on clad Kennedy's (non-silver) you will get a nice match for the slippery sam.
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
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On 2009-03-23 10:07, kissdadookie wrote: No need to file down any coins. If you look at a quarter you can see the copper band. Just place this band down towards the English penny. It will help the penny shell blend in with the quarter when doing the quarter display. Hope this helps somebody. Doug L.
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DeWayne Veteran user Greencastle, PA 361 Posts |
Yup! I've had people really inspect the edge of the half-dollar because they saw the "copper shelf". My daughter who sees so much magic she is willing to bust my chops said she saw the copper. But upon inspecting the edge of the half dollar saw it had a seam of a copper color in it (clad coin). I'm kinda wishy wasy on it. It bugs that they can see "it", yet when examined they think the "clad" is what they saw. I'm just not sure I'm ok with that.
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KirkG Inner circle 1391 Posts |
It is the nature of the effect to be on "on flat" to your spectator. This limits the number and location of those spectators. So do it when conditions are right and don't do it when they are not. Same way you can't do a Asrah at the beach.
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
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On 2010-03-17 13:24, KirkG wrote: Pesky wind! lol..
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NYVetteGuy Regular user 107 Posts |
I havent had any issues with Digital Dissolve...maybe I'm lucky....
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obsidian52 Veteran user United States 372 Posts |
I have not had any issues either... in my experience no one has noticed it at all..just another coin trick....the hardest part is getting rid of the shell but a magnet works great
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jimmyj Veteran user 343 Posts |
Hi,
Same here-No problems with anybody noticing the gaff. But-If you are worried about it flashing or being noticed, and without altering your gaff or coin, cup your hand and fingers. Have the set up gaffus on your fingers, cup them, and point your fingers downward. That way, the specs will be looking at more of the face of the half, rather than maybe getting a glimpse of the copper shell underneath. Even though it should only be a sliver. A slight movement of the hand doesn't hurt, as long as you keep everything under control. Sometimes-Not saying you-What you notice, while you're performing the trick, goes completely un-noticed by the specs. Be confident with the gaff-And nobody should be the wiser. How many layman even know what a sliding shell is anyway? Never heard of it. Right? Jim |
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obsidian52 Veteran user United States 372 Posts |
No one has a clue what a hell coin is, a locking set or a copper silver coin....must laymen couldn't tell you the difference between a 64 kennedy and another except it looks shinier...a slight cup of the fingers like in a standard finger palm looks perfect 1000 per cent un noticeable
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NYVetteGuy Regular user 107 Posts |
The easiest way I have found is, I wear a PK ring when I perform Digital Dissolve and am able to keep the sliding [ in my hand by making it just stick to the PK ring and being able to ditch it in my pocket with my hand completely flat but away from the view of the specs, I make a fluid motion to place the half in the specs hand with my palm down retaining the ] on the ring...
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
I also came up with the P^ ring idea independently, and it does work great.
I perform the transpo, show both coins in my right hand, then I toss them into my left to let them examine them. When I toss the coins, the sh3ll sticks to the P^ ring, so I don't have to fingerpalm anything. Hand goes into my pocket at any point during their examination to ditch gaff.
Douglas Lippert
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NYVetteGuy Regular user 107 Posts |
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On 2010-04-01 01:10, Douglas Lippert wrote: Great minds think alike |
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
I keep my distance a bit from the spec. It is tempting to get real close to them, but an extra 2 feet can mean a good deal at times!
Great idea using the ring, btw!
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