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Tricky Regular user 108 Posts |
I was wondering, how do you transport your magic around tables? Sure it's ok if you are just doing cards or coins, etc... because they fit in your pockets, but what about things like cups and balls and other big items? Do you have a close up case or something?
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Dr. JK Inner circle Sandusky, OH 1191 Posts |
I think most (note: I said most, however, there are those that believe otherwise) of the pros here would tell you that cups and balls shouldn't be used for table-hopping since you don't want to invade "their space" (the table). My thought would be that if it doesn't fit in your pockets or a little case, it's probably not the best thing for table-hopping. Just a thought, but to get back to the original question, most of my stuff fits in my pockets (I'm usually wearing a coat, though).
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Tricky Regular user 108 Posts |
Yes I thought about cups and balls invading space whilst I was reading some other topics on the use of cups and balls.
And anyway, come to think of it, in close up and table hopping there is nothing that is really very big. james |
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flourish dude Inner circle from ? But I know where I am going! 1195 Posts |
I just use a card to wallet stuffed full. Also all my pockets are filled up.
I have been thinking about carrying a small bag around with me with most of my stuff in there. (The effects I use most will still be in the pocket like sponges, coins, string, ECT...) The cups and balls, close up pad, balloons and children give-aways will be in the bag. What I mean by bag, is like a doctor’s bag or a soft over the shoulder brief case. I picture that I could just walk up, set the bag at my feet (off to the side so I don't trip) and start. If I decide to do something that is in the bag, I bend down, get it and go. This also gives me spare rubber bands, cards, pens, business cards and so forth. If I don't want to use the bag that night I would place it in the wait-staff station or in the manager's office. What does everyone else think about this idea?
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
Actually, I do cups and balls table-hopping--a two cup, one ball routine with three final loads. I use mini cups and Fakini Billiard Balls for the final loads. Aldo Colombini has a nice table-hopping C&B routine with sponge balls in "The Close Up magic of Aldo Colombini."
I agree that you shouldn't "invade" their space, but I have a method to get around this. To answer the original question, it depends. Sometimes I work strictly out of my pockets. In my restaurant work, I have used a case with a pad on top and an invention of mine that allows me the full use of a pad and a case to carry lots of extra and bigger props (Chop cup, Linking rings, etc) without intruding on the guests' table space. It also allows me to have a lot more effects while keeping my pockets relatively empty, avoiding the "bulgey" look. Works for me! I know there are some who think you only need five or six tricks. I have worked restaurants 4-5 nights a week, 2-4 hours a night, for nearly 11 years. I would get bored to tears with only a few effects. But again, that's just me. What works well for you is what you should do, and there is certainly plenty of room for different methods, ways of working and opinions.
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Geoff Williams Special user St. Pete Beach, FL 617 Posts |
Tablehopping: everything fits in a pocket (even my topit holds a jumbo coin which, by being vanished, automatically resets). I have 8 extra, specially-designed pockets professionally sewn inside my jacket.
I use a modified Klamm pocket organizer in my R jacket pocket. I have a chopped-down, plastic baseball card collector case with a divider which holds 3 packet tricks in my shirt breast pocket. Very important: I roll long shirt sleeves INWARD. This keeps coins and other goodies dropped down the inside of the coat sleeve from getting accidentally caught on the way down. I prefer short sleeves under a coat for this very reason.
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Mandrake New user Germany 66 Posts |
Whatever is too big for the guests table, should not be on it, to my honest opinion, anyhow, if you want to do bigger stuff, why don't you just get a big tray and a tray-stand? I know they are very common in the states.... I would borrow it from the place I perform and BTW. playing the (maybe even clumsy) waiter can be the perfect approach for your table... ever thought about it?
Greets Mandrake (Bartender & Magician, from Germany)
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
Would a strolling guitarist bring his guitar case to your table?
Well, I certainly hope not! Same thing, essentially. Everything I do can be contained in my jacket pockets or that old standby, the magic vest (mine are specially made with deeper pockets than normal). I am of the school that doesn't believe in invading the space of the customer. Others can do it freely. It all depends on your style, the restaurant's ambience, and the type of customer. Personal preference: No case, no table, no "nuttin' ". But, then, that's just my personal preference. cheers, Peter Marucci |
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Aedryan Methyus New user 94 Posts |
If their is room I like to bring my fold up stand (like the ones used by waitresses in restaurants to set their trays down on) and my briefcase. I will place my close-up pad on top of the briefcase and I'm good to go.
It takes up very little room and beats the h**L out of working on a table with food and drinks spilled all over it. Aedryan |
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Mandrake New user Germany 66 Posts |
Well, another thought...
since I work at bars or restaurants, I am often there before the customers are. Whenever I have a chance to know the seating I hide stuff in the place.... under the table or up at the ceiling if I can reach it and you have sort of a shelf-like struture.... It always trips them off, when you pull stuff from apparently nowhere. I am not talking of your basic props, more of stuff that just could not be there. E.G.: One night I prepared to perform salt shaker through the table (I do it with a tumbler though...) and I prefer to use Aluminum Foil as a cover. At the place I work currently, there is a two-level ceiling. It hides the neon tubes for the indirect lighting and I can perfectly reach into the shelf, standing. So I hid several whole dispenser, packs of A.Foil up there, over several tables. I started pattering about the coin and the glass, looking around for a cover.... Then I stood up and with one hand pulled a length of A-foil "out of the ceiling" and tore it off, just like the most natural thing in the world... BINGO... after that, they ate everything... Just toy around with the options you have... Greets Mandrake
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Telemus Regular user Everett WA 128 Posts |
For table hopping and strolling magic everything is in my pockets. Single cup routine can be very powerful. (Ammar has a wonderful routine) Some effects I like very much, but I don't get stuck on having to do that specific trick if it doesent fit the venue. Establish a set of requirements that an effect must meet for the venue. Those requirements are up to you. But remember more stuff doesn't always meen a better effect- As in a Mentalist Effect. Very powerful with, in most cases limited props.
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Sir T Special user 535 Posts |
This is a new topic for me, has anyone tried using an apron. I saw a busker using one and it looked rather nice. I have seen one in a catalog, but at present have no use for such an item.
Just wondering what you all think about this? Kevin |
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Mr.B New user 6 Posts |
I usually work out of my pockets in the restaurant but I will do the cups for those repeat customer who keep coming back because they know me and there is no problem with anyone's space being invaded.
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Shawn D Elite user Hughson,Ca 465 Posts |
I use an apron I had my wife make me. It can be adjusted to have one pocket on it or more.
I am still playing around with it but I had her make it because there were some tricks I wanted to do that didn't fit in my pockets and with repeat costomers I needed more space to carry new stuff. I had her make it a little biggger than coat pockets with small pockets inside for extra coins. When I am not using the pockets they just slide around to my back and I can slide them to the front when needed. Working out really well so far. Shawn |
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James Fortune Special user UK 509 Posts |
I'm with you Peter (Marucci) - it's all in my pockets.
I can do about half-an-hour at each table if required (almost never) from this. Only way IMHO.
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Tricky Regular user 108 Posts |
Actually everything you will need apart from say C&B can fit in pockets, ie... cards, coins, wallet, TT, sponges pen, so really you just need something with some fairly big pockets
james |
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Jason Fleming Veteran user Marooned, Hawaii 374 Posts |
I agree with Geoff and Peter -- Well said!
Although I always work from my pockets, one of our colleages works from a "fanny pack", one of those belt-satchels (his is black leather and fits in well with his outfit). This allows him the advantage of more carrying space without the shackle of lugging a bag. -JF |
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Danny Hustle Inner circle Boston, MA USA 2393 Posts |
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On 2002-03-26 21:18, Sir T wrote: I use a Gib. in my street work and I love it. It would work well behind a bar as many barmen wear aprons. I don't know however how it would be percieved in a table hopping situation. I assume that you are wearing a suit and I don't think a gib or a butt pack would be appropriate with a suit. Best, dan- "MT is one of the reasons we started this board! I’m so sick of posts being deleted without any reason given, and by unknown people at that." - Steve Brooks Sep 7, 2001 8:38pm ©1999-2014 Daniel Denney all rights reserved. |
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
Yes, indeed, Dan.
In doing street work, I use a giberciere that is, in fact, a bartender's apron. It's black, has three very deep pockets, and a blade fastener at the back. I can put a number of things in it, including a full gross of balloons. (Of course, you can't sit down!) And you're right; it wouldn't work in a suit or tux -- unless you were performing for a room full of clowns! cheers, Peter Marucci |
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magus Special user Huntington Beach, Ca 669 Posts |
I use a hollowed out book to carry some of the props (along with extra deck, rubberbands, odds and ends I don't want in my pockets)
The bottom of the book has a hole in it and a plate from a Norm Neilson cane and hat to table. If I do restaurant work, it's just the book. If I'm doing walkaround at a party, I carry the cane and the book. I make my intro, and if given the OK, I spin the cane and drop the book on it for a small table to set a couple of things on as I work.
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