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I need some help guys. In Israel Stage Hypnosis is forbidden (by law). Do you know of any other countries in which Stage Hypnosis is not allowed at all? Any help would be appreciated (even if you don't know but you live in a country that allows stage hypnosis please state your country, it'll help as well).

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Hi Nimrod. In Ireland there are no restrictions on hypnosis shows (or on any form of hypnotherapy, even if carried out by an unqualified therapist). But in Britain they have a hypnosis act which places a lot of restrictions on hypnosis shows. Permission is needed from the local authority before each performance.
I imagine that in the Muslim states such as Saudi Arabia there are probably restrictions, but I have performed in Abu Dhabi and there didn't seem to be a problem there.
Any reason why Isreal bans hypnosis shows? If it is causing you a problem you could always call your show a no-hypnosis show. For more on this, see another thread on this forum, where vigerous debate has been going on between the hypnotists and the non-hypnotists.
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Unreal. They should ban any performer on stage that has volunteers come up if that be the case.
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I know, this is unreal and a thing belongs to dark ages. Medical doctors and psychologies in Israel decided 25 years ago that Hypnosis is a tool belongs only to them and can't be used as an entaertainment (you can get arrested in Israel for hypnotizing your friend in a bar).
This is what happens when those who makes the law are those who benefits from it. Hypnosis should be unveiled for what it really is. As long as it is treated as witchcraft there will be witch hunts.
I have a personal reason for asking those questions: last week I was investigated by the police for doing the human bridge and locking a girl's eyes on Israely TV. This is far from being funny. Not any more. I'm trying to change the law and I need any information available.

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Ouch, that's no fun... Maybe you could just ask your volunteers to "be a good sport and play along".

I agree with Candin, its a reasonable argument that any social interaction can be deemed hypnosis, and though there are probably significant differences between what the doctors do in therapy and what you do when locking someone's eyes, it can be hard to discern when something as vague as 'hypnosis' is banned.

On the otherhand, I'll bet the ban on hypnosis would help you get some pretty good subjects - who's gonna question the power of something that the gov't has banned?
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The full body catalepsy is a stunt. The locking of the eyes is a reponse to suggestion. Neither of these are hypnosis and you should present it as such. It will be upon those investigating you to define and prove that hypnosis was used. It will be mostly impossible as there is not a universally accepted definition of hypnosis. Tell them to go concentrate on Iran and other more important things than your suggestibility tests.

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Ha ha ha!

The state of Israel vs Hypnotism! There's a movie in there somewhere! =D
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James Brown used hypnosis extensively when out in Israel for the convention in January. Ian Rowland was there and seemed very impressed. He presented it as focused relaxation and the use of creative imagination over conscious rational belief. No-one batted an eyelid!

Just goes to show that it is all in the presentation!

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The answer is simple: Never claim that you are doing hypnosis! It will be impossible to prove you did…

“I`m not going to hypnotize you, I wouldn´t even know how to do that. You are in full control, it´s your imagination… The stronger you imagine the harder it is to stop (or whatever your doing)This has nothing to do whit hypnosis and you can stop at any time, you will not have any possible after effects and you will feel absolutely great”

Good luck buddy!
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Why is forbidden in Israel?

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On 2009-06-15 00:20, ssucahyo wrote:
Why is forbidden in Israel?

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Same reason England has old laws on the books regarding public hypnosis CC. Dark ages. There is really no actual proof hypnosis exists but they ban it anyway LOL.

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In the 80' during a stage hypnosis show a girl "got stuck in a trance state" for 24 hours or so. Since then it's forbidden.
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On 2009-06-15 04:10, nimrod wrote:
In the 80' during a stage hypnosis show a girl "got stuck in a trance state" for 24 hours or so. Since then it's forbidden.
IT could of been that she was smoking to much on on the doulble bubble pipe than getting stuck in hypnosis, as we know its a load of tosh.
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Yeah I'm with Mark. Someone, from somewhere, says (maybe) that some girl, from somewhere, got stuck in hypnosis for 24 hours. Oh and it was over 20 years ago.
I'll offer a thousand here and now that says that's NOT documented. AND for what it's worth I did a (mini) hypno show in a pub in Tivon (near Nazareth) and everyone seemed to have a great time (circa 1990). At the same time I did a healing service and they came from everywhere! No one mentioned any legalities to me. Are you sure it's illegal there?
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I'm sure. Israel as far as I know is the only country in the world that totally forbid hypnosis as means of entertainment. Correct me if I'm wrong. Even in England you can hypnotize your friend for the fun of it. Here you can't do it.
Bobser, lock the door. The israeli police might knock on it in the near future.
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I think its easy to give Nimrod advice. But when the police knock on your door and investigate you that's a different matter. As for proving something that depends upon the laws and culture of a given country.

Its easy to say hypnosis doesn't exist and can't be proved. That doesn't mean other cultures and laws share your blatant disregard for the law due to a more liberal and tolerant system. Israel may be one of those places where you won't get away with it.

Without goin into the same old tired debate there is "proof" that it does exist. And there are guidlines within the laws of some countries that determine what hypnosis is.

Even in some parts of the states it is illegal to practice hypnosis without a medical license.
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In Belgium it's also illegal to perform hypnosis for entertainement purposes,

altough there are some backdoors
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MP there is no place in the USA that restricts hypnosis to medical doctors. Not one state has such a regulation; although hypnotherapay may be regulated in some to healthcare professionals. These regulations on hypnotherapy have NO impact on stage hypnosis.
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On 2009-06-15 18:44, bobser wrote:
I'll offer a thousand here and now that says that's NOT documented.


It is told by Dr. Kleinhauz and Dr. Beran in the International Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis in 1981. This is the case that was responsible for the ban in Israel.

One large one coming my way. However I will settle for a wee dram of the Claymore next time I meet you.

Oh and it was 6 days in the hypnotic stupor not 24hrs Smile

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Hmmm. First it's 24 hours. Then it's 6 days. Eventually, it will move to 6 weeks and the girl gave birth while on feeding tubes. This is how urban myths are born. The reality, whatever it may be, quickly becomes irrelevant.

As they said in the movie: The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence (from 1962)

"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." (Because nobody will believe the truth.)
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