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dobber Regular user 160 Posts |
This neat little self-worker appears in Scarne on Card Tricks (trick #81).
Do any of you do this exactly as described? Specifically the part about asking the specs to note if their selected card falls in the top of bottom section during the two reverse faros. As Scarne points out, it doesn't matter if they remember or not, it has no bearing on the outcome. I know the performer has to somehow justify the handling and this is one way of doing so. I'm just asking if anyone approaches it differently. |
Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
It is the way to justify doing Reverse Faro and is a kind of psychological misdirection. Although Scarne did not mention, I would rather ask spectator in which packet his card went. (It misleads as if the trick works by asking).
Although Scarne said this trick was Dai Vernon's, but the fact is this is Charles Jordan (Arthur Findley)'s creation with a tiny alteration by Dai Vernon. It is not 'Scarne's Up and Down'. Hideo Kato |
Doctor REvil Elite user 469 Posts |
Stewart James credited this effect to Walter B. Gibson.
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
I think Stewart James was mentioning about Walter Gibson's 'Double Reverse', which was the precursor of Francis Carlyle's 'The Upside-Down Deck'.
Hideo Kato P.S. 'Double Reverse' by Walter Gibson: January 27, 1940 issue of "Jinx". 'The Upside Down' by Francis Carlyle : "Scarne on Card Tricks". (1950). 'Up and Down' is completely different trick from 'The Upside Down Deck'. |
Doctor REvil Elite user 469 Posts |
I was refering to the "Double Prediction" by Gibson reference Sixteen Master Card Mysteries 1928. This can be found in vol:two of the James File pg 2241.
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tltq Regular user east coast 161 Posts |
The same trick is in Self-Working Card Tricks by Karl Fulves under the title Whispering Joker.
The problem (to me) with the handling in the Scarne book is that if the spectator repeat the same procedure they will get same results. In the handling from the Fulves book the location of the chosen cards are not revealed to the spectators to me, the justification for the reverse faros are you're just mixing the cards up in a strange way Just a side note - The packet can be given complete cuts in between the two reverse faros |
Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
Doctor REvil-san, thanks for clarifying. I was wrong.
I checked James File Vol.2 and found the trick is almost same as Charles Jordan's trick. I wonder why Stewart James and Walter Gibson did not credit Jordan's famous trick. Maybe they didn't know it. Hideo Kato |
dobber Regular user 160 Posts |
Thanks to those who responded.
You are correct Kato-San, I should not have titled this "Scarne's" Up and Down. I don't think he is giving Vernon credit in the introduction, rather just saying it was a favorite of his. |
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