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Dave V
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Wow! I'm glad you finally posted the answer. I've been going nuts trying to figure it out. Smile

David
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Andy

Isn't technology a wonderful thing?

One picture is worth a thousand words....

If only I had the skill to post a picture I could have saved myself a lot of work! Well done Andy, I'm glad you liked it.

BTW I didn't post this description in the secret section because it's not really magic, more of a betcha and it's pretty well known anyway. Am I right in this moderators?

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Dennis M Marlock has an excellent book out called "how to be a professional con artist"

its not simply bar bets but full on scams.
A realy good read.
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Bill.

Yes technology is a wonderfull thing, I just wish I understood it better. I've just bought the digital camera and I'm like a kid with a new Toy.

BTW Bill (And anyone else for that matter,) Will you Be at Blackpool next year, The Brochure has just been released, Aldo Columbini, David Acer, Darryl and Darwen Ortiz amonst many others, I've already got my tickets. We might even get chance for 18 holes on Stanley Park on the Friday or Monday weather permitting.

Cheers


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Here's a scam that sounds a lot more complicated than it is. Prepare by stacking a deck of cards so that the colors alternate. Let's assume that the top card is red. If you cut the deck so that the top card of the bottom portion is black (which can be ascertained by glimpsing the bottom card of the top portion to make sure it's red) and riffle shuffle the two packets together, the colors of the cards will obviously no longer alternate. What is not obvious is that if you take the shuffled cards two at a time, starting at the top, every pair will consist of one red and one black card. This is called the Gilbraith principle.

To work the scam, you need a victim and a confederate. Start by cutting the deck as if you were going to shuffle. Then stop and, in all "fairness" let the victim perform a riffle shuffle. You then have him deal all of the cards face down into four hands as if for a game of bridge. The victim then gets to pick any pile for himself.

Think of the piles as being two sets. Set one is piles one and two. Set two is piles three and four. After the victim selects his pile from either set one or set two, you and your confederate each choose the two piles that make up the other set.

The bet is that each of the three of you simultaneously turn up the top card of your respective piles. If two face up cards are the same color, the holders of them each pay one dollar to the odd man.

Sometimes you'll win. Sometimes your confederate will win. The sucker will never win.

I hope this is not tipping too much for a general post.

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There is a book called "Beat em, Cheat em and leave em bleeding" About 3 bucks at Daytona magic. All scams. Covers The two headed or tailed coins, dice, and cards. Includes the 31 trick in dice and cards. I think marked cards as well.
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On 2002-11-08 18:37, KingStardog wrote:
There is a book called "Beat em, Cheat em and leave em bleeding" About 3 bucks at Daytona magic. All scams. Covers The two headed or tailed coins, dice, and cards. Includes the 31 trick in dice and cards. I think marked cards as well.

Man am I glad you wrote this, I think I saw one go for about $6.00 on ebay sometime back and I was thinking of bidding on the next one.
ebay's got some good stuff, but you have to be careful about the price you are willing to pay. You can end up paying more than new prices if you are not real careful.
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This is a decent book, but you shouldn’t pay over 5 dollars for it.

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There is a great book called "Titanic Thompson" full of the most outlandish bets, and he was a real person, Al Capone is in one of the stories.

Frances Marshall wrote a book called "Wanna Bet"

And for the Harry Anderson Cheers bet, Cliff never actually called him on touching the hat. I really love the Cheers episode where they pull off the sting.

Matt
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On 2002-07-31 12:52, MAGICTOM wrote:
The 6 nail balance is a favorite of mine, but I usually do it for friends not as a bet... and I don't usually carry a block of wood and nails into a bar *L* I absolutely love the hat and shot bet.. going to have to try that sometime... I have one that a topless dancer showed me one time ..
she took an empty beer bottle and balanced it upside down on a dollar bill lying flat on a table... she challenged me to remove the dollar without touching the bottle and without knocking the bottle over..I thought..
hmm that seems easy enough, and after 3 or 4 trys of yanking that dollar out and tipping the bottle, she showed me how to do it.
she simply started rolling the dollar bill from the endin a tight roll.... when the roll reached the bottle, she kept rolling the bill and slowly pushed the bottle off of it... she never touched the bottle and she didn't knock it over.. pretty clever, it got me
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magicHart
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How about Billion Dollar Bunko from Simon Lovell!!
Dave V
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Great book! I like how it has a little of everything conveniently collected in one volume.
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Darren Kidby:

If you really love gambling scams and bar bets as you mentioned, I would highly suggest that you buy Simon Lovell's Billion Dollar Bunko book as mentioned in several of the above posts. That book will give you a very good overview about the different types of gambling bets and scams.

There are many different types of gambling scams. Bar bets are another group not usually mentioned. Cards and dice are used in most types of gambling scams but as the Billion Dollar Bunko book mentions anything is and can be used for bets especially when money is involved. Bets have lost and won on nearly EVERYTHING...
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