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The Futurist

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Posted: Nov 6, 2009 8:24pm
One does not want to be playing with knives or nails in cups at children's parties and the like! But still the idea of a fun version of Russian Roulette appeals to me.
I'm trying to think up a presentation for Russian Roulette involving something harmless but amusing, involving, say, cups being up-ended over the magician's head, all but one, which is found to be the only one actually containing water. As either a magician or spectator could easily feel the weight difference between a full cup and an empty cup, the idea of building suspense in the presentation seems a bit tricky.
Derren Brown had a good one on one of his recent shows where he had three spraycans, the final one of which turned out to contain the paint. So the 'spray route' might be the way to go, where there are a number of sprayers, of equal weight and seeming content, where only one works. Any further ideas? Thanks in advance.
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Attan

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 6:59pm
You could still use the cups. If you fill one cup with water, and then cover each cup with a napkin and smash them one by one. The smashing is nice, and it's good because the kids are involved in the risk too since it would splash all over the place if you missed.
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The Futurist

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 8:05pm
Good one, Attan. Cheers.
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Attan

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 8:10pm
There's a thread about this trick in the street magic forum (for some reason) where a good idea popped up.
This is quoted from Revmike, not my idea.
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| I do a comedy version of the effect with raw eggs and paper cups and the kids giggle knowing I could get my hands all messy but no danger of anybody getting hurt. This usually follows my silk to egg or egg bag when I ask if they would like to see another "egg-strordinary" trick. |
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Thread: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=296221&forum=92&25
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The Futurist

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 8:54pm
Oh, nice! Good find. Thanks for that. I may see if I can incorporate something along these lines into my upcoming Xmas children's gig. Whilst working on a more sinister one for the adults
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Jv

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Posted: Dec 16, 2009 7:16pm
For a more 'child-friendly' version, you could incoporate a water balloon under one of the cups...
Jv
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The Futurist

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Posted: Dec 16, 2009 8:23pm
Cool idea. Nice one JV. I have a children's gig on Friday so I might try something along these lines.
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David Franklin

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Posted: Dec 16, 2009 8:52pm
Check out the latest issue of Genii (January).
Magicana features a routine by Stephane Bourgoin called 'Silly String of Death'.
Might be what you're looking for.
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bobn3

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Posted: Dec 19, 2009 1:29am
The Survival Egg 2 at Stevens Magic might fit the bill for this. You have an egg under the cups as mentioned earlier.
Bob Phillips
http://www.stevensmagic.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=88_42&products_id=111519
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The Futurist

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Posted: Dec 19, 2009 7:18am
Cheers guys. Well, I had a children's Xmas gig yesterday, and decided to leave out any Russian Roulette/"Smash and Mess" routine, but the idea still intrigues me as a way of building up suspense with a young audience.
David, I'm not subscribed to Genii, but it seems I can pick up that individual issue in e-form at some point. I see November's is on sale at several online magic emporia, so I might have to wait a bit.
Bob, the Survival Egg looks very cool, albeit a bit expensive for me, but the eggy concept is a good one. I'll have to come up with my own "arte povera" version
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amedica

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Posted: Dec 21, 2009 10:37am
Ouch, I am just imagining a spraypaint russian roulette plot gone wrong. Guess it's better than a real russian roulette plot going wrong. haha
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Chris Henderson

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Posted: Aug 6, 2010 1:47pm
My Russian Roulette Firing Squad of Death may fit the bill.
Six identical toy dart guns are shown. The first 5 are shown not to fire at all due to the firing spring being removed. The 6th and final gun is shown to be the only one that shoots. All 6 guns are put on a round spinner (to mimic the spinning action of a revolver's cylinder) and spun fast enough so that no one knows which is the only gun that shoots. Five volunteers have a free choice of any gun they want (no force) and any dart they want (no force). Performer is required to take the final gun remaining on the spinner. All 5 spectators line up, aim their loaded guns at the performer. Performer aims his gun at picture of the Masked "Magician" (or any currently unpopular pop-culture figure). At the count of 3, all spectators pull their triggers. None fire. Performer fires his gun. Dart shoots out of gun and sticks to the picture.
"I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief"
--Gerry Spence
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Humester

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Posted: Aug 24, 2010 12:44am
I think that for a children's show I would steer clear of any type of weapon, even a toy gun. I do like the silly string approach however. I'll need to check that out.
Humester
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Marduk

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Argentina
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Posted: Sep 27, 2010 7:56am
Russian Roulegg
Russian Roulette for all kind of audiences
http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/product.php?productid=10065&cat=0&page=1
or:
http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/?hn=1
All the best
Quique Marduk
www.marduk.com.ar
I'am a proffesional magician and lecturer
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