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BatsMagic

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New York
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Posted: Feb 25, 2012 1:37pm    BatsMagic is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of BatsMagic  

I'm having lots of trouble getting this to work properly. Everything is lined up very well, and I used brand new bills. Should I have used older bills? It seems so simple when Sanders does it! I am new to using bills in my magic, so this is all new to me!
mndude

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Posted: Feb 25, 2012 3:10pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of mndude  

Quote:

On 2012-02-25 13:37, BatsMagic wrote:
I'm having lots of trouble getting this to work properly. Everything is lined up very well, and I used brand new bills. Should I have used older bills? It seems so simple when Sanders does it! I am new to using bills in my magic, so this is all new to me!



It's tricky. Today I just went to the bank to get newer bills towns it work better, lol.
mndude

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Posted: Feb 25, 2012 3:25pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of mndude  

Whoops to make it work better...
J-Mac

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Ridley Park, PA
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Posted: Feb 25, 2012 4:07pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of J-Mac  

Bats,

It really is simple! And new bills work much better than old IMO. Actually I think that Richard recommends newer bills on the DVD - haven't watched it in a while!

Like any effect you must work at it to get it to flow nicely, though to be honest I had it up and working very quickly. However it took a while before I could do it smoothly and without any hesitation or jerkiness. (Is that a word?!)

One thing to check is that you have the order of things correct. Can't say too much on that here but I am talking about the specific location of the offset one. (Do you get that?)

Jim
sirbrad

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Posted: Feb 25, 2012 4:45pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of sirbrad  

I ordered this the other day finally. Looking forward to it!

The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
mayniac

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Posted: Feb 25, 2012 6:16pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of mayniac  

You'll love it, sirbrad. I held off on getting it for a while too, but now it is one of my favorite effects to perform. It's fantastically visual, angle-proof, casual, practical, portable, and magical.

Official Product Reviewer of Trick Shop Magic
saysold1

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Posted: Feb 25, 2012 7:09pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of saysold1  

I love EB and do it all the time.
rasmus

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Switzerland
992 Posts
Posted: Feb 25, 2012 7:33pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of rasmus  

This is a beautiful effect. everything that pops out of richards mind is brilliant
and a worker. its just normal to invest some time to get it perfect. but it doesent
take to much to achieve a smooth change.

I had problems to get other bills with the same size of bills as in switzerland. finally
I found a currency that works just perfect. old turkish currency, very cheap over ebay.

I also use paper strips, news paper pieces or lottery tickets as well.

A World without Magic is a World without Dreams and Hope:)

Rasmus 2012
dreamadream99

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Central Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Feb 28, 2012 1:16am    Reply with quote   View Profile of dreamadream99  

The very nature of bills folded in half in a stack causes the inner bills to protrude more than the outermost bill. Add to this the special requirement for EB's get ready, and you have lots of flashing potential. This is a really big deal in any country where the bills are different colors. I solved this a long time ago with EB1:

I trim my bills.

Not much. Less than a milimeter, but this keeps them from being spotted during either phase of the trick. This built in recess makes the get ready really easy too, since the key bill is flush rather than protruding.
Mr. Mystoffelees

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Posted: Feb 28, 2012 3:19pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mr. Mystoffelees  

Good tip. But I have to say, I use "newer" bills, but not "new" and have never had one glitch with EB. I purchased EB2 just to keep up, but have never seen a reason to change. This effect just stuns people. Keep with it Bats, sounds like your are doing something a little different, perhaps. I will tell you that I switched to a larger piece of what would almost be very thin desk protector or a thicker iphone screen protector and got a much better result, if that is not too cyphered...

Jim

Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
reignofsound

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Glasgow, UK
233 Posts
Posted: Feb 28, 2012 5:27pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of reignofsound  

Just ordered this today.
I live in the UK
what are the best notes to use (lowest denomination)
Thanks
mndude

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Posted: Feb 28, 2012 6:08pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of mndude  

I'm TOO dumb to do it!!
Sammy J.

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Posted: Feb 28, 2012 7:16pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Sammy J.  

Quote:

On 2012-02-25 13:37, BatsMagic wrote:
I'm having lots of trouble getting this to work properly. Everything is lined up very well, and I used brand new bills. Should I have used older bills? It seems so simple when Sanders does it! I am new to using bills in my magic, so this is all new to me!



Bats,
Just keep playing with it, and store the bills in your wallet even when you aren't performing it. It takes some time for a new gaff setup to cooperate properly. Be patient. It will come together for you.

I have performed this many hundreds of times, and you will find success.

Sammy

Sammy J. Teague
When the Docs give your wife 18 months to live and it has been 10 years, that is a miracle!
dreamadream99

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Central Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Feb 28, 2012 7:46pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of dreamadream99  

Quote:

On 2012-02-28 17:27, reignofsound wrote:
...I live in the UK. What are the best notes to use. Thanks



You can use any bill to any bill. But 2 rules. Must be the same size, and paper is better than plastic.
TheGreatRaymondo

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Manchester, England
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Posted: Mar 5, 2012 8:49am    Reply with quote   View Profile of TheGreatRaymondo  

Quote:

On 2012-02-28 17:27, reignofsound wrote:
Just ordered this today.
I live in the UK
what are the best notes to use (lowest denomination)
Thanks


You can't use UK notes as each denomination is a different size (to aid blind people I am led to believe)
So you have to use magazine clippings or paper etc. I am just building a gimmick using blank cheques to £10 notes.
I need to trim the cheques down to size but hopefully, will be OK. You could also use paying in slips then change them
to money! Good luck

We are inclined to believe those whom we do not know because they have not yet deceived us...
reignofsound

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Glasgow, UK
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Posted: Mar 5, 2012 9:19am    Reply with quote   View Profile of reignofsound  

What currency / method do UK use?
I can't decide what to do.
SPONGE KONG

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Posted: Mar 5, 2012 10:51am    Reply with quote   View Profile of SPONGE KONG  

[quote]
On 2012-03-05 08:49, TheGreatRaymondo wrote:
Quote:

On 2012-02-28 17:27, reignofsound wrote:
Just ordered this today.
I live in the UK
what are the best notes to use (lowest denomination)
Thanks


You can't use UK notes as each denomination is a different size (to aid blind people I am led to believe)
So you have to use magazine clippings or paper etc. I am just building a gimmick using blank cheques to £10 notes.
I need to trim the cheques down to size but hopefully, will be OK. You could also use paying in slips then change them
to money! Good luck

It's such a shame that U.k currency is different sizes as the Dollar changes look so good! I've had EB2.0 for ages but haven't put a gimmick together yet due to not liking the look of magazine clipping, but I really like your Cheque idea!
TheGreatRaymondo

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Manchester, England
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Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:44am    Reply with quote   View Profile of TheGreatRaymondo  

£5 note to 20 Euro notes work well. There is only a couple of millimeters difference in the size. With a little bit of trimming its no problem to knock up a gimmick. I have also just made a £20 note to Lottery tickets gimmick. You need to trim around 50mm off the length of the lottery tickets but I don't think anyone will actually notice.

We are inclined to believe those whom we do not know because they have not yet deceived us...
*double-A-magic*

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Cheshire, England, UK
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Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:55am    Reply with quote   View Profile of *double-A-magic*  

Quote:

On 2012-03-11 07:44, TheGreatRaymondo wrote:
£5 note to 20 Euro notes work well. There is only a couple of millimeters difference in the size. With a little bit of trimming its no problem to knock up a gimmick. I have also just made a £20 note to Lottery tickets gimmick. You need to trim around 50mm off the length of the lottery tickets but I don't think anyone will actually notice.



Just to clarify... I use £20 and the lottery slips that are used to pick your numbers, not the lottery ticket itself. Is this what you mean or do you actually use the lottery ticket?

Regards,,

AA

"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not, none will suffice."

- Joseph Dunninger -
TheGreatRaymondo

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Manchester, England
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Posted: Mar 11, 2012 12:38pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of TheGreatRaymondo  

Quote:

On 2012-03-11 09:55, *double-A-magic* wrote:
Quote:

On 2012-03-11 07:44, TheGreatRaymondo wrote:
£5 note to 20 Euro notes work well. There is only a couple of millimeters difference in the size. With a little bit of trimming its no problem to knock up a gimmick. I have also just made a £20 note to Lottery tickets gimmick. You need to trim around 50mm off the length of the lottery tickets but I don't think anyone will actually notice.



Just to clarify... I use £20 and the lottery slips that are used to pick your numbers, not the lottery ticket itself. Is this what you mean or do you actually use the lottery ticket?

Regards,,

AA



Hi,
Yes - the lottery ticket slips to pick your numbers. Sorry about that!

We are inclined to believe those whom we do not know because they have not yet deceived us...
J-Mac

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Ridley Park, PA
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Posted: Mar 11, 2012 1:05pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of J-Mac  

You can use just about anything that you can trim to the same size as the bills that will be produced. I have one dollar bills to twenties (USD). I also bought a few Zimbabwe 100 trillion dollar notes - yes, they really did issue those! - and I change them to $2 biils (USD). The Zimbabwe notes were smaller so I copied them - both sides - and increased the size to match the $2 bills. Works fine. Also, any store coupons that are laid out in landscape; again, I copy & resize the images. A while back in this thread or another on EB2 someone was sending a PDF of lottery tickets that were resized to match US currency. You could make any type of papers change to any other as long as you can resize the former to match the latter. Come on..... You're magicians!!! Be creative! Effects won't always be a perfect fit for your personal use. Sometimes you just have to use your head and make something that matches your own presentation stule and fits in with the rest of your magic.



Jim
Mach

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 8:16am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mach  

Can this be used in conjunction with Sanders' Powerball 60 - whereby the tickets can be changed into currency? For the record, the powerball 50 tickets are made out of cardboard as opposed to flimsy paper.

Thanks

Mach
emyers99

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Columbus, Ohio
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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 10:10am    Reply with quote   View Profile of emyers99  

Not unless you can find currency that is as narrow as the tickets (which are much narrower than US currency).

Eric
www.ericmyersmagic.com
0likv

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Posted: Oct 31, 2012 12:18pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of 0likv  

Please can some1 message me what the gimmick was in eb normal because I have eb 2 and it is quite annoying because I don't have any rubber cement but my supplier is willing to lend some to me.
thanks
bob99

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Posted: Apr 1, 2013 1:04pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of bob99  

Has anyone in Canada performed this with the new polymer bills? As seen in the linked image below, they have a transparent strip that runs the full height of the bill. I love the look of this trick, it's amazingly visual, but I have the feeling this new currency is going to totally blow it.

Click here to view attached image.
Danny Kazam

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Posted: Apr 1, 2013 1:23pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Danny Kazam  

I tried with 20's and 50's. Nope, doesn't work very well. I had resorted to using Canadian Tire money, but just wasn't the same. I only use it now when doing a gospel effect using tracts that look like million dollar bills from WOTM. I turn pieces of paper with different sins on them into the tract bills, and then hand some of them out.

Even though they might not work with some of the Canadian currency, there are several other ways to use the gimmick that I believe make EB still worth owning.

Keep your dreams alive. Understand to achieve anything requires faith and belief in yourself, vision, hard work, determination, and dedication. Remember all things are possible for those who believe.
bob99

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Posted: Apr 1, 2013 2:46pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of bob99  

Thanks for the reply Danny. If I get some old bills, I suppose I can do a routine talking about why they had to phase out the old currency (for security reasons) and how you can't do that with the newer bills.
mich77

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Posted: Jun 9, 2013 1:05pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of mich77  

Magic Mike! Amazing idea and I really thank you for that
I didn't buy so far EB or anything like that for the problem that someone talked about... euros, lowest denomination, etc etc...
but now I'd like to use it.
Thanks again
saysold1

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Posted: Jun 9, 2013 1:21pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of saysold1  

Quote:

On 2013-04-01 13:23, Danny Kazam wrote:
I tried with 20's and 50's. Nope, doesn't work very well. I had resorted to using Canadian Tire money, but just wasn't the same. I only use it now when doing a gospel effect using tracts that look like million dollar bills from WOTM. I turn pieces of paper with different sins on them into the tract bills, and then hand some of them out.

Even though they might not work with some of the Canadian currency, there are several other ways to use the gimmick that I believe make EB still worth owning.



Works 100% beautifully with 20's - I use it all the time that way, for the past 3 years - just need to find some newer bills from your local bank (1's and 20's in my case).

This is one of the cleanest and best effects I own - and always gets great reactions.

Your mileage (like Danny's) may vary.
Danny Kazam

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Posted: Jun 9, 2013 2:37pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Danny Kazam  

I was referring to the new Canadian polymer bills just recently put into circulation a year ago. All our Canadian currency is changing over from paper to polymer. It has always worked great with our old currency.

Keep your dreams alive. Understand to achieve anything requires faith and belief in yourself, vision, hard work, determination, and dedication. Remember all things are possible for those who believe.
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