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Matt Watts
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In Harry Anderson's Hello Sucker. He performs a 3 card monte with jumbo cards. Does anyone know the name of the routine and if it is a published effect where I can obtain it?
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That routine is entitled "Monarch Monte" and it's published in the book "Harry Anderson--Wise Guy" by Mike Caveney. It's still in print. Here's a link:
http://www.mcmagicwords.com/books/harryanderson.html

As for the props, the cards Harry used in "Hello, Sucker" he made himself. Later he and the late Jack Sutherland of Sun Magic put out a limited release of giant PVC cards (18"x24") for the trick under the name "Three Card Monarch". Less than 500 sets were made (all signed and numbered), and at the time they went for $175. They go for much more now when a set comes up for sale.

After Jack died the manufacturing rights went to Hank Lee. For a while Hank put out cards in the same giant size for a similar price, and those cards are now also hard to find. At some point he stopped making the giant cards and instead put out a smaller (but by no means small--they're 12"x18") set of cards under the name "Three Card Prince". Those cards are still available--just check out the Hank Lee website. I think the cost is in the $70 range.

As an aside, the only difference in the two sets of Hank Lee cards is the size--the thickness of the PVC and the four-color graphics (front and back) are the same. And IMO, the Hank Lee cards are better looking than the original Sun Magic cards (I own and have used them all).
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Thanks,
I am looking in to it.

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The biggest difference for me was the signed instructions. Hank Lee's didn't come with signed instructions.

The smaller Three Card Prince would be easier for most people to use though. Remember that Harry is very tall. I stand 5'7" and had a very difficult time using the Monarch cards.
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I use the 3 card Prince in dozens of corporate & Hotels and clubs etc

The size of cards is very easy to use -I recommend you try these

Very practical and a great routine

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One more point of information regarding the various sets of cards that have been made for this routine, and that is that both sets of the really big cards (the original Sun Magic cards and the larger "Three Card Monarch" cards by Hank Lee) are not entirely opaque. If there is even a moderate amount of light coming from behind the cards, you can see a shadow of the reverse side. That can be problematic with outdoor gigs or indoor gigs that only have overhead lighting.

The PVC used for the smaller "Three Card Prince" cards is slightly thicker and, as a result, completely opaque--backlight is not a problem. But you lose the added impact that the giant-sized cards provide.
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Well, the original set of 3-Card Monarch that was produced by Sun Magic and Anderson's Illusions was SUPPOSED to include signed instructions, but Harry never got around to signing any of them before they were sold. I believe there were 475 sets of the Monarch produced, however, I've never seen or heard of any numbered 1-100. I was told by a reliable source there weren't any. The back design of the Hank Lee's Monarch and the original was different, and also didn't include the brown leaterette "wallet", either. The wallet/case comes in handy when using the Monarch on stage, too. Even Harry doesn't usually use the Monarch anymore, due to the size...they block your face and can cause feedback with a lavalier mic.

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The trick can be easily made with the giant cards purchased at Party Stores. In fact that is what Harry Anderson used to make his original set he used in his act. Party stores sell these for 'Cosino Night' Parties.

I had a Sun set of these Huge cards and did not notice the show through as mentioned above. They were made out of very thick heave PVC card. They copied them so exactly, that the corner pips were to close to the edge of the card as in Harry's home made version.

Harry Anderson probably does not use this effect any longer, for the reason that it is being sold on the open magic market and published in his book. Most popular magicians stop using their material once they offer it for sale.

Tom Mullica never did his Wallet, once he put in on the market. Except at magic functions to help the dealer sales.
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On 2010-03-27 19:37, Stevethomas wrote:
Well, the original set of 3-Card Monarch that was produced by Sun Magic and Anderson's Illusions was SUPPOSED to include signed instructions, but Harry never got around to signing any of them before they were sold. I believe there were 475 sets of the Monarch produced, however, I've never seen or heard of any numbered 1-100. I was told by a reliable source there weren't any. The back design of the Hank Lee's Monarch and the original was different, and also didn't include the brown leaterette "wallet", either. The wallet/case comes in handy when using the Monarch on stage, too. Even Harry doesn't usually use the Monarch anymore, due to the size...they block your face and can cause feedback with a lavalier mic.

Steve

Steve, I beg to differ. The Hank Lee Monarch cards also came with a black vinyl "wallet" (they're large portfolios, actually), just like the Sun Magic cards. In fact, the wallet that came with the Hank Lee cards is of better construction than the one with the Sun Magic cards. I've got a set of each.

The instructions that came with my Sun Magic cards (which I bought second-hand from Max Krause) are, like yours, unsigned. I'm going to check to see what number they are when I get home tonight.
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I believe there were 475 sets of the Monarch produced, however, I've never seen or heard of any numbered 1-100. I was told by a reliable source there weren't any.

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The instructions that came with my Sun Magic cards (which I bought second-hand from Max Krause) are, like yours, unsigned. I'm going to check to see what number they are when I get home tonight.

I've got #157.
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On 2010-04-29 03:15, wmhegbli wrote:

Harry Anderson probably does not use this effect any longer, for the reason that it is being sold on the open magic market and published in his book. Most popular magicians stop using their material once they offer it for sale.

This is the opening effect in Harry's "Wise Guy" show, which he performed right up until Katrina hit.
He continues to use it to full effect.
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Hello. This is my virgin post! I just saw that Bob Little was selling the Prince Monte and they came with DVD directions! I have the monarch monte and the prince monte and they came with the same, not so good, printed directions. I just performed with Harry Anderson last week at the Magic May Day in Mechanicsburg, PA. That's where Bob Little got the Prince Monte. Hopefully that is how they are sold from now on!
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On 2010-03-27 19:37, Stevethomas wrote:
Well, the original set of 3-Card Monarch that was produced by Sun Magic and Anderson's Illusions was SUPPOSED to include signed instructions, but Harry never got around to signing any of them before they were sold. I believe there were 475 sets of the Monarch produced, however, I've never seen or heard of any numbered 1-100. I was told by a reliable source there weren't any. The back design of the Hank Lee's Monarch and the original was different, and also didn't include the brown leaterette "wallet", either. The wallet/case comes in handy when using the Monarch on stage, too. Even Harry doesn't usually use the Monarch anymore, due to the size...they block your face and can cause feedback with a lavalier mic.

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Steve, I beg to differ. The Hank Lee Monarch cards also came with a black vinyl "wallet" (they're large portfolios, actually), just like the Sun Magic cards. In fact, the wallet that came with the Hank Lee cards is of better construction than the one with the Sun Magic cards. I've got a set of each.

The instructions that came with my Sun Magic cards (which I bought second-hand from Max Krause) are, like yours, unsigned. I'm going to check to see what number they are when I get home tonight.

I bought an original of the giant Harry Anderson version, and I wondered why it wasn't signed. I tried to sell it years ago and someone reported me to ebay as selling a knockoff because it wasn't signed.
I still have it, unused, but one of the white of the cards has faded. Looking to sell it as is.
Mine are totally opaque and thick.
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I have performed the Monarch Monte within my last shows. And the reaction from the audience is so good that I will not delete this trick.

To my experience the cards do not block my face. I follow the instructions from Harry Andersons book. The drawings in the book also never show the face of performer hidden behind the cards. The extra large cards are one of the reasons for the comedy punch of this trick. It needs some time to handle the cards but it is really worth the effort.
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The cards are held to 1 side of you in your right hand & when all 3 are stacked for shuffling etc
they are in front of your body-Your face is visible at all times even at the the end
when 3 Kings are revealed etc

If you cover your face your doing it wrong even with the extra large Jumbo version..

Just a thought
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In Harry's last shows in NOLA, pre-Katrina, Harry was using the Prince set, when I asked him why while we were having dinner with him, he said the Monarch wouldn't so much block his face (he IS 6'6"), but could cause audio feedback depending on the type and placement of the microphone.

I did eventually get my instructions signed by Harry.

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On 2010-11-23 18:05, Stevethomas wrote:
I did eventually get my instructions signed by Harry.

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You're likely the only one who did!
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Didn't Harry Anderson also do the same routine but with a different gimmick...I don't know the formal name for them...the ones with the sliding gaff?
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On 2010-12-11 10:57, isaaclouie wrote:
Didn't Harry Anderson also do the same routine but with a different gimmick...I don't know the formal name for them...the ones with the sliding gaff?

It's not really the same routine but yes he did use the set you mentioned on the with Willard Scott at a Christmas parade.

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Gil,

I'm thinking of one of the "magic awards" shows that was on TV. The patter was basically what's in the Wiseguy book just using the sliding gimmick...If I remember right. I could be remembering wrong. If I recall he used a spirit hand in the routine for an extra sight gag.
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