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Luis Vega New user Leon Guanajuato Mexico 74 Posts |
Hello everyone!!
Some time ago I wanted to start mentalism and hypnosis... I have started to read some books in mentalism, but I was wondering if somebody could point me in the right direction to start reading about hypnosis... any advice it´s apreciated!! |
Owen Mc Ginty Special user not a stupid user, a special user. 533 Posts |
If you want something concise, to the point, that will tell you what you need to know to get started, I believe that "Reality is Plastic" by Anthony Jacquin is a good book to begin with.
I´ve bought the book and the inductions DVD - I recommend both. :)
If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.
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seadog93 Inner circle 3200 Posts |
I recently got "The new encyclopedia of stage hypnosis" by Ormond McGill. I think you could spend a lifetime with this. It's a little pricey, but you get a lot of info for the price; and you may, like myself, be able to check out a copy from the library to preview before you buy (remember to ask about interlibrary loan).
Courtney
"Love is the magician who pulls man out of his own hat" - Ben Hecht
"Love says 'I am everything.' Wisdom says 'I am nothing'. Between the two, my life flows." -Nisargadatta Maharaj Seadog=C-Dawg=C.ou.rtn.ey Kol.b |
Owen Mc Ginty Special user not a stupid user, a special user. 533 Posts |
I also have the Ormond McGill encyclopedia. It was a gift so I can´t comment on the price. There is a wealth of information in the book, plenty of different methods so that you can find something that suits you.
When starting hypnosis, most sources I´ve consulted seem to agree that confidence is extremely important. Your subject must believe in you - and if you don´t believe in yourself then you´re off to a bad start (like me!).
If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.
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insight Inner circle 3095 Posts |
For mentalism read 13 steps!
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Pauldela Special user U.K 882 Posts |
I too started on 'Reality is Plastic', well that was the first book.. Before I got Richard Nongard and John Cerbone's DVDs. But Reality is plastic will do you well!
Pauldela |
Anthony Jacquin Inner circle UK 2220 Posts |
Thanks for the mentions gents. First book I had was McGills encoyclopedia but it did not get me out of the blocks. Once I was out of the blocks though I have found it is full of valuable ideas. Some are dated, most stand up to the test of time, but just like 13 Steps with a bit of creative application you will find ways of making the ideas presented into your own.
Three books I recommend more than most others are Deeper and Deeper by Jon Chase - book on stage hypnosis Training Trances by Overdurf - essentially about therapeutic applications but ful of good info and technique and Tranceformations by Bandler and Grinder - I mean the original version. Nongard and Cerbonne have most other aspects covered on DVD and everything I have of theirs has provided me with value. Anthony
Anthony Jacquin
Reality is Plastic! The Art of Impromptu Hypnosis Updated for 2016 Now on Kindle and Audible! |
dylan magic Elite user 424 Posts |
If you can go and do one ants weekends, either the manchu or the trilby.
I read r.i.p and felt I was missing something ( I wasnt, I just didn't have the confidence to do it). after that it will help you decide what to buy etc and what your end goal of hypnosis is. |
bobser Inner circle 4179 Posts |
Excellent point made by Dylan and very candid.
The absolute truth is that any book will do it for you. Just grab anything. I've never seen one that DIDN'T show you how to hyopnotise. Hypnosis, more than anything I've ever known, is ALL about the doing of it. But we're all slightly different. Although I relate to the written word I like to SEE examples. For me, when I SAW someone hypnotise I knew immediately all I had to do was copy them..... lots. Then later I could develop my own style, which has since been copied by thousands! Ok maybe not thousands but a couple guys across town who seem very happy with it.
Bob Burns is the creator of The Swan.
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dmkraig Inner circle 1949 Posts |
There are a few points I'd like to add...
Stage hypnosis is about performance. In many instances people are pretending they are hypnotized. Does this matter? Not if they do a good job! The goal in stage hypnosis is to put on a great show, not your brilliance in giving a hypnotic induction. In fact, many people starting with hypnosis want to have the "one" foolproof induction or learn lots of inductions including several rapids and instants. There's nothing wrong with that, but what I'd like to point out is that the induction is perhaps the easiest part of performance hypnosis. A major part of this is the hypnotist's self-confidence, what Ant calls being "The Hypnotist." More important, IMO, is what you say BEFORE you hypnotize anyone. That pre-talk needs to give you authority and provide respect while eliminating any fears. It also needs to be concise and build excitement. But the most important part, IMO, is what you do AFTER induction. Sticking people's hands to foreheads and trash bins gets old very fast. Being able to present suggestions for acting, getting people to act very visually, and making it all entertaining is the trick. Can you learn this from a book? Maybe. Learning it from watching people perform is easier and taking a training is, IMO, the best. |
bobser Inner circle 4179 Posts |
The best book I ever read on it's application was called: 'fun with hypnosis' by 'professor Svengali' who is actually a guy called David Geleibter from New Jersey. It says it all and would be impossible NOT to be able to hypnotise after a) Reading it and b) Applying it.
Bob Burns is the creator of The Swan.
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Nongard1 Special user 664 Posts |
Gotta agree with Bobser, an excellent book for a starting point...
Dr. Richard Nongard, Professional Hypnosis Training
Learn how to master the art of SpeedTrance, Clinical and Stage Hypnosis |
Shane Masters Regular user Columbus, OH 157 Posts |
I have learned a ton over the years from Mr. Nongard himself. I also have this book. It is a good book and gives what I refer to as the " cliff notes " version of hypnosis.
That doesn't mean it is bad... it just gives you simplified instructions of the most important areas of hypnosis. Also known as Laymen's terms. This book is well worth the $20.00 or so to purchase. If you mess up using this book, then take it as a cheap $20.00 lesson and realize that you are not hypnostist material. It takes confidence and knowledge to do this art. I literally just came back from a local pub/bar and had half the customers hypnotized in an impromptu session. Mark Cunningham and Mike Doubet have an interesting video set, but, because it is a class oriented video, there is more talking than " getting down to business" atmosphere on them. I believe it is a multi-DVD set that realistically could have been cut down to 1 DVD without all the filler material. If nothing else, purchase Richard's DVD's and books on hypnosis. I do recommend his DVD's where he is alone. John Cerbone is a great hypnosist and I love him to death ,but, John is like Spinal Tap...... his amp goes to 11. I think he still gets soooo excited about hyposis, sometimes he gets off track about what the sole purpose of what the DVD is. I mean no disrespect to anyone with this post, it is very hard sometimes to get your point across in a message forum as all signs of emotions and sincerity are absent. Once you get proficient and confident with hypnosis, buy John's DVD about Speed/Instant inductions. I utilize his ideas of the 3 handshake method ,but, to help get the person off guard, I have someone running around taking pictures. Once I have them smile for the camera, I am still shaking their hand. Once their analytical side is "stalled" for that moment to take the picture, they are mine. This seems like an odd mentality to have when so many books talk about respecting the client, however, it is this overconfidence that seems to get me trough when nothing else would. However, once they are in this state of relaxation, that is when we shut the Alpha Male or Female down and we must realize, we are their protector. It is up to us to provide them with a postive hypnostic experience. I have had a couple cocktails, so please, read this post only at face value.
The Cerebral Assassin
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dmkraig Inner circle 1949 Posts |
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On 2010-06-08 03:03, Shane Masters wrote: I would respectfully say that this is quite an overstatement on the level of "If you fall down trying to ride a bicycle after reading a book on how to use the pedals, you're not bicycle riding material." Hypnosis is not a theory, it is a skill. And as with all skills it is best learned with the help of a person who actually trains you, either individually (as with a mentor) and as part of a group (in a class). There are some people who can learn a skill from a book. Others cannot do so easily. Not being able to learn a skill from a book does not mean a person can't learn that skill, only that they need a different method to learn it. |
Shane Masters Regular user Columbus, OH 157 Posts |
Kraig,
I am not trying to ruffle feathers, I was just trying to give insight on how great this book is. This book makes it that easy. I do not know how anyone could simplify hypnosis with a DVD or instructions more than this book has. Example: I love my wife dearly, but, she is one of the most inept people I know. I gave her this book on Sunday. By the weekend, she was hypnotizing her friends.( I was also there to guide her should something arise, but, she did perfectly fine on her first attempt ) There are more books with tons of information......I know, because I have over 40 of them... a lot of it not completely necessary if you are just wanting to hypnotize someone. Hypnosis is a skill. I do not dispute that, but, with any type of skill, there is a theory behind it. As I also said in my post, take it at face value. I had a few cocktails and did not feel like typing a book on it. I am truly sorry if I offended anyone.-Shane
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dmkraig Inner circle 1949 Posts |
Respectfully, Shane, you're still displaying an attitude, here.
You're making the false assumption that because something worked for you and your wife it must work for others. This is he fallacy of generalizing something that is specific—since it worked for you it must work for everyone. That simply isn't true. I'm very glad that you were able to learn from Mr. Nongard. I have some friends who have studied with him and who have seen his shows with Mr. Cerbonne. I have nothing against him and think he does a great job. I have reviewed some of his material and recommend it. I'm sure that your experience and your study of 40 books has been eminently helpful to you, just as my personal trainings have led to certifications with multiple organizations, including certification to teach hypnosis. My own readings and studies have only included slightly over 500 books, videos, and audios. You're correct--a lot of that is not necessary if you just want to hypnotize someone. I'm not disagreeing with your support of Mr. Nongard or his writings. I'm just disagreeing with your dogmatic insistence that if people can't learn the way you did they're "not hypnostist material." I want to tell people reading this thread that if you've tried to learn hypnosis in one way or more, don't give up! Don't let people tell you that you're "not hypnotist material." As a skill, hypnosis can be learned by anyone. Keep trying until you find a way to learn that works for you. llegitimi non carborundum |
Shane Masters Regular user Columbus, OH 157 Posts |
Again, I apologize. -Shane
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Owen Mc Ginty Special user not a stupid user, a special user. 533 Posts |
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On 2010-06-07 09:55, dylan magic wrote: Dylan - I sympathise 100%, at least with the feeling that I´m "missing something". I´m chomping at the bit, but can´t make to one of Ants weekends just yet :(
If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.
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