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tester2006
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Hi, Can anyone comment or provide feedback on this trick? I think it looks amazing. Its a little pricier than my usual effects so would like to hear some reviews before I invest.

https://www.elmwoodmagic.com/full/Mental......8277.htm
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You don't spend much money on magic do you.
But reviews are great so I too would like to get some feedback on this routine.
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You don't spend much money on magic do you.
But reviews are great so I too would like to get some feedback on this routine.
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Had mine for about a month now and have used it frequently. Works just like advertised! Gimmack is sneaky and the routine is a lot of fun with good patter possibilities.

regards,

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Thanks Damon. The premise reminds me a little of Max Mavens karatsuki--if you know that effect.
Sounds like its worth spending money on Tester. I am going to buy it from Elmwood on your recommendation.
Will it fool magicians as well ?
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This product has remained under the radar, and I am not sure why. This sounds like a clever product as long as it just isn't a repackaging of Kurostsuke of Max Maven's (which has Zen-like perfection).

I am having a little trouble visualizing what takes place. I guess I don't know what mixing the chips means.

Any help would be appreciated (with clarifying exactly what happens as the spectators see it).

Regards,

Sean
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Not a repackaging of Kurostsuke (which I have done for qiute some time. You hold the bag so you cannot see and they drop their chose color in. You shake (the bag!) and they drop the second one in. Again shake the bag. The moment you reach in to take a color out you know their choice! Can be done as often you like and then they place another chose color in the bag, you shake the bag and with head turned the rest of the colors go in. Again bag is shaken. In taking the colors out you know wich one is the chosen one.
Hope this helps, Sean.

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Thanks so much for the feedback guys! Majura, I do spend a LOT of money on tricks but unfortunately I'm a hobbyist and not a working magician so I'm a little hesitant to purchase the more expensive tricks if they are far beyond my ability. I guess I'm a bit cheap so I scrutinze anything above the $35 range.
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Damon,

Thank you for the post. That is helpful indeed.

Regards,

Sean
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While $40 is not a major investment, all of the media and "tools" start to add up. This is especially true since I get (a little?) obsessive about knowing many ways to do any given effect, since a layered approach is typically the most deceptive. My point is, no one likes to waste money.

Aside from worthy books (or some DVD's ) I can't imagine a better $40 spent on a mental/magic item (as long as the routine theme is a suitable one for you to perform). This is a fantastic piece, with a brilliantly simple method which is easy to use and extremely practical. I have just given this a go today and it just makes me smile. While some similar types of routines have utilized similar principles, this one is by far the most clever application. I was set to be a little disappointed, but I could not be more pleased. Ingenious!

I don't mean to be trite by saying I did not want to give a recommendation for this (so I could keep it for myself), but I genuinely felt that way. This would have fooled me. However, the creator in me likes to "tip a hat" to a job well done.

For a clear concept and routine with an ingeniously simple method, this get my highest recommendation. Well done, Paul!

With regards,

Sean
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Sean,

Glad I could be of some assistance. Have great fun!

regards,
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On 2010-07-10 18:54, Damon.Wizard wrote:
Sean,

Glad I could be of some assistance. Have great fun!


regards,
Damon


Thanks again, Damon. I will have fun.

Gratefully,

Sean

BTW: This method can be applied to items other than the casino chips (though they are supplied). While it will take some DIY work (and investment), many other items could be used.
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Thanks for the kind words guys! I'm glad to hear you’re pleased with Truth. If anyone has any specific questions feel free to contact me directly at:

http://www.elmwoodmagic.com/?nd=contact_us
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There's a good demo of it on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj0aiWEOIxg

--mike
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Did this for the 1st time tonight and I have to say this is very cool! Audience wondered how I knew what their chip was and I got some very positive reactions about this! Already thinking about using a crown royal bag instead of the paper bag!
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Just received mine today. Clever idea and quite practical for 'real world' use, particularly for those who need something that can reset instantly and be repeated as necessary.

As for cost/value, don't know that the DVD was necessary, as you pretty much get the idea as soon as you open the package and inspect the contents, but I have no qualms about what I paid.

Overall - Recommended.
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On 2010-07-15 04:51, Lou Cirulli wrote:
Did this for the 1st time tonight and I have to say this is very cool! Audience wondered how I knew what their chip was and I got some very positive reactions about this! Already thinking about using a crown royal bag instead of the paper bag!


Gave in on this and just received it today. Actually, a very simple premise but quite cleverly done. Seemed a tad hokey or suspect to me in having the chips being placed in a bag, but this will simply go over the heads of a layperson.

Love your idea about using a Crown Royal bag and it just so happened that I had one laying about. Gave it a try and its beautiful! Right from the get go I wasn't at all too crazy about the black paper bag. Granted, you can easily use a regualr paper bag, but I wasn't to eager at the thought of carrying a folded up paper bag with me aside from the noise it makes albeit that is a very small point.

The cloth bag, as in the Crown Royal bag, folds up nicely, and you can keep all of the chips in it in one nice small bundle. Also, a VERY big plus is how easily you can turn the bag inside out to show it empty while ever so easily being able to hide, and then......well, if you have this you'll know what I'm talking about. Give this a try and I seriously doubt that you'll ever use a paper bag again. Also, due to its dark color, and again.....if you have it etc, etc. After that, its all up to your personal presentation which is extremely important, so make the most of it!

I happen to have some of the coins that could be used so I might play around with that also, but the chips are really nice and have the weight of high quality poker chips made of clay. Two thumbs up in this!
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Thanks Gaffed!
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Well, maybe it is I who should be thanking you. Of course, I more likely than not would have searched for some different type of pouch, rather than a paper bag, to place the chips in. I have several felt bags but the biggest one is still a tad too small to pull this off, so the Royal Crown bag seems to fit the bill nicely. Plus, it has the advantage of being somewhat generic and recognizable rather that some other nondescript felt bag that could possibly come under suspicion. I always think it best to use something recognizable if at all possible. And, like I mentioned previously, at the beginning, or even again during the performance if you so wish, you can easily turn the bag inside out to show that nothing is in the bag.

On that note, being that the bag is cloth and supple, a tad more care must be given as to how it is handled so that the “it” can properly do its job. While practicing I failed a few times here and there, but with a little handling and practice, and being aware of the this fact you can easily work it out. I certainly can’t discuss it here for fear of exposure, but if you have this you’ll easily know what I’m referring to.
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Thanks again for the kind words guys....and of course your purchases!

I received a few emails about using a cloth bag in Truth so I thought I would pass on my thoughts. I have on occasion used a cloth bag but there are four primary reasons that I tend to go paper....

1) In the event the room is VERY quite, the paper provides natural cover that helps hide any potential noise caused by the method. In virtually all performing environments, this is a non issue....but it's good to be prepared. I'd rather not get in to too much detail regarding this on a public forum but owners of the effect should understand.

2) The squared bottom of the bag provides control over the method in a way that would be harder to gain in most cloth bags.

3) To me a paper bag is perceived as "disposable". We all know that paper bags are eventually discarded and I believe that means the spectators place little value on it. My personal experience has shown me that a paper bag is less suspect than a cloth one.

4) A paper bag stays open naturally. I can hold a paper bag delicately by the fingertips of one hand and a spectator can easily get in and out. I find that a cloth bag requires a bit more fumbling with the bag because the mouth collapses. This may seem like a small point but personally would rather keep the handling as streamlined as possible.

One final note, I use this effect a lot when strolling. Many of those events are loud and filled with distractions. In such settings I like the noise of the chips in the paper bag. I liken it to companies that use those big spinning wheels for prizes at trade shows. The wheel's loud clicking attracts attention and helps keep it focused. I've worked rooms where people heard the noise of the bag, looked to see what it was, and then came over to find out what I was doing. As long as you're not shaking it like a mad man and being obnoxious...it's not a bad way to draw a crowd.

Best,
Paul Richards
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