Another vote for Prior Commitment

Peter Nardi has a great effect called Knock Em Dead that I usually carry with me to conventions. It's great for laymen and magicians. It is completely self-working and self-contained.

Caleb

Vlad where can I find Synchronous ?

John Bannon's Origami Prediction is one of my fav's. It has a kicker ending

I really wonder that no one mentioned Al Koran's ingenious Five Star Prediction.
100% selfworking and with conditions which are hard to top:

Spectator deals cards face up (!) on the table and stops wherever he wants. The card stopped at matches precisely the prediction card, which was the whole time in an otherwise empty envelope on the table...

Maybe not objectively the best prediction effect, but at least IMHO very high ranking...

With all respect I have "Knock 'em Dead" and I find that it depends way way too much on the old "Magician's Choice" ruse. I dug it out last week and performed it for a co-worker after being in the closet for years. It knocked no one dead - not even an eye twitch.

I happen to be a big fan of Jean Boucher & Patrick Reymond's PROTON DECK - Self working, very easy, the prediction can easily be changed for different spectators, and it is a fooler:
http://www.camirandmagic.com/rt_025.html

What do you mean "Magician's Choice?" They deal the cards and stop when they want. Then you show that you predicted the card they stopped at. There's no equivoque in the routine if I'm remembering correctly.

Caleb
http://www.CalebWilesMagic.com

Magician's Choice - That is pretty much explained here, and this effect depends on it hook line and stinker...
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In a typical example of the Magician's Choice, the magician will ask a spectator to make an apparently free choice among several items. No matter what choices the spectator makes, the magician ends up with the item which he wanted the spectator to choose.

In a simple example, the performer may deal two cards face down onto the table, requiring for the purposes of his trick that the card on the right be selected. He will ask the spectator to choose one of the cards. If the spectator chooses the card on the left, the performer will say something like "you keep this card, I'll take the remaining card." If the spectator chooses the card on the right, the performer might say "okay, let's use the card you chose." Thus, the choice of which card to use is really made by the magician, hence the term "Magician's Choice."

Suppose, for example, the performer requires that a spectator select a particular one of three objects (say, the middle card in a row of three). To ensure this result, while giving the appearance of choice, the performer first asks the spectator to select two cards. If the spectator selects the left and the right card, the magician may continue by saying "Okay, we'll remove your selections, leaving us with the middle card." If the spectator selects the middle card and another indifferent card, the magician may continue by saying "... and now give me one of the cards...." If the spectator hands over the middle card, the magician may conclude, "... which we'll use," and if the spectator hands over the indifferent card, the magician may conclude "... which we'll get rid of." In each case, the middle card is apparently selected. By keeping his instructions ambiguous until after a choice is made, the magician retains full control over the apparently free selection.

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What do you mean "Magician's Choice?" They deal the cards and stop when they want. Then you show that you predicted the card they stopped at. There's no equivoque in the routine if I'm remembering correctly.

Caleb
http://www.CalebWilesMagic.com
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Yes there is equivoque...

Equivocation is a technique by which a magician appears to have intended a particular outcome, when in actuality the outcome is one of several alternative outcomes. Also called a "multiple-out"

To see a very good, self-working card prediction effect, go to Youtube and search Greg Rostami's "Predict". It's based on Paul Curry's "A Swindle of Sorts" from PAUL CURRY PRESENTS.

"Gemini Calling" in Card College Lightest is an excellent self-working prediction trick, and it is extremely easy to do with zero set up and a borrowed set of cards.

Try with "Destiny is back" by Tommaso Guglielmi this effect is a killer effect:
You will able to predict a card thought of by the spectator and this card will be at named number by the spectator without the performer touches ever the deck.

MP

Is "Destiny 2" (which I found on Lybrary.com) the same as "Destiny is Back"? If not, is one an improvement over the other?

http://www.lybrary.com/destiny-2-p-67303.html - Destiny 2
https://sites.google.com/site/m2mmagictrick/subtle-scam - Destiny is Back

The video demos are really tough to watch.

Posted: Nov 4, 2010 12:12pm
Looks cool as anything though - very clean!

Has anyone else played with this? This is a $32 download - 94 pages...

This video is easiest to watch
http://www.lybrary.com/destiny-2-p-67303.html

Posted: Nov 4, 2010 12:22pm
Here is a link to the extensive MC thread:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&start=0

Destiny is Back is a bonus effect of Subtle Scam.

Another amazing effect inside this pdf is Duplicity aside Subtle Scam.

MP

Cardoracle.

I've always thought of equivoque as being different from multiple outs. Tomato, tomato... hmmm I guess that expression doesn't come across in writing

Either way, "Knock Em Dead" is a GREAT trick!

Caleb
http://www.CalebWilesMagic.com

Just found another good one "Post It Prediction" from Solomon's Mind very clean and easy to do

Can anyone tell me where I might find Al Korans 5 Star Prediction, please? Cheers

Martyn

ps PM if you like.

I read about it in Al Mann's manuscript:
http://www.zem.demon.co.uk/almann.htm

However, it's featured on the Osterlind Mental DVDs as well.

Hi Martyn,
The mentioned Al Mann manuscript is an excellent source as well as "Al Koran's Legacy". The first is a treatise about the Al Koran deck (including many different versions of the 5 Star prediction), the latter contains many of Al Koran's professional routines, both are well worth reading...
Friedrich