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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
You're welcome. I know how it feels.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Shufton Veteran user California 306 Posts |
Hi Michael J-
Thanks so much for your thoughts and kindness. So glad you are enjoying X-Ray! -Steve
Fobulous, Emergency Cash, 3D Paradox, PS-I Love You, X-Ray, The Portal, Ultimate Floating Match, Miracle Premonition... and more!
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
I'm having some problems with it. I'm hoping Steve or Ben will guide me through the humps.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Mad_Lewis Loyal user France 300 Posts |
Andi, here is more info :
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=159 Daffi, what problems do you have ? I may help you if needed, I found useful tips to avoid problems. |
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Shufton Veteran user California 306 Posts |
I PM'd Doug. He'll be contacting me...
Best to you- Steve
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
I think I fixed it with an innovative idea of my own, but I'll contact you anyway.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Mad_Lewis Loyal user France 300 Posts |
If anyone encounters problems I'll be glad to share my tips.
Best, Louis |
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Andi Peters Inner circle 1330 Posts |
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On 2010-09-04 11:57, daffydoug wrote: So I took the plunge and bought it. Firstly there IS fishing, no doubt about it. Especially as one of the sections mentions a 'Fishing Matrix'! Secondly, the trick relies on a method that works maybe 75% of the time. Ted Lesley had a way of working with the method to make it 100% but that approach wouldn't work here. For me this is an interesting combination of existing ideas but is far too risky for a headline effect. The two outs offered are a cop out imho. I think the effect needs a bit more thought to make it sure-fire. Imagine missing the card after all that build up. Embarrassment central! |
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Mad_Lewis Loyal user France 300 Posts |
What if you fake a prediction with an invisible deck ? so what happens is : the performer makes a prediction by turning a card over, he leaves the room(letting his deck on the table) and the spectator follows the instructions in his own deck. finally, if you find the card by Xray means you have also a match with your prediction, you can also reveal the position*. if you don't find the card, luckily you made a prediction earlier. that way you have a full surefire routine. Both are quite strong...
*in your invisible deck, you can also write on the back of the cards the position number of the card (don't forget to visibly shuffle the spectator's deck at the beginning). And reveal the card you turned over as a DOUBLE prediction if you have indeed a hit. If you don't, don't talk at all about the position. The prediction is made in front of everyone but bringing your invisible deck under the table of course. PM for further details =) |
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Gregory57 Loyal user 246 Posts |
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On 2010-09-06 16:23, Andi Peters wrote: I don't remember reading the words "fishing Matrix", but I'll assume that they are there, however, I would hardly call what happens "Fishing" since I don't think another magician would even recognize this as fishing. The revelation happens so quickly and unexpectedly that even if someone would suspect this, they would be hit right between the eyes, when you name the card. Not to mention when you then follow-up with naming the position of the card. I said this in another post on the Café, this is a fantastic effect and the description is exactly what happens, no info left out or double meanings. Simple, Direct and Powerful. I would also have to say that anyone familiar with the handling used in this effect, should experience a close to 100% success rate. That's been my experience with both this effect as well as other routines in which this "something" is used.
Cliff Gregory Wollin
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a brown 1968 Elite user 470 Posts |
Cliff
To be fair on Andi . He asked a simple question of daffydoug before he purchased to clarrify a point. The answer was a clear NO .. If I described the method to 10 magic buddies they would say daddydoug answer was wrong , not misleading but wrong . I agree there are levels to the method and this version is one of the best but the fact remains Andi would not have purchased it if he had been given a correct answer . I did in fact send him a PM not wanting to open the method out on the thread but he bought the effect before he read my PM . I have tried to help Andi by sending a method inspired by Ben's which other than not leaving the room is 90% the same as Ben's, but Free Cut , No fishing , 100% all the time . Ben was kind enough to send me a email liking my approach |
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
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On 2010-09-06 22:38, Gregory57 wrote: True. Not really fishing because you can get at the MOST one "no".
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Bill Lhotta Veteran user on top of a 14000' mountain in Colorado 357 Posts |
Nice idea Tab.
But if you used it this way you would probably want to change your patter away from the X-ray premise. It wouldn't make any sense as to how you knew what card to turn over in the invisible deck if you are pretending to utilize X-ray vision to see the card the spectator has chosen and turned over. But it does make things fool-proof and 100%! Cheers! ** Bill ** Quote:
On 2010-09-06 17:02, The.Amazing.Boy wrote: |
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Mad_Lewis Loyal user France 300 Posts |
Yes of course, patter is everything ! I would not have used it like described above. Glad you liked it !
Cheers Louis |
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Jim Klodzen New user 58 Posts |
I love this! I actually did this three time to the same person and it killed them.
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Prager Inner circle e-Mentalism.com 1858 Posts |
Yes Jim this is a killer!
My favorite effect this year! J. Prager
Jose Prager
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Ben Harris V.I.P. The Land Down Under 2126 Posts |
Hi Guys,
Thanks for all the wonderful comments. Steve and I are thrilled to announce that the beautifully printed "REAL BOOK" version is available from all fine dealers as of SEPTEMBER 20. That's next Monday! The book is beautifully printed and saddle stitched with a glossy and classy cover. Well worth adding to your PHYSICAL book shelf. Cheers Benny & Stevo
+Inventor of the world famous Floating Match+
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p_n_g Loyal user 297 Posts |
I'm in love with this effect, and came up with a very simple way to do it impromptu, with the least amount of card handling, even with a borrowed deck.
The positive side : It is more direct than the main version. You name the card, and the number without hesitation. You can check the deck after and there will be absolutely no evidence of what just happened. The negative side : Based on a principle which is less reliable, than the original one. If you like the main method, and interested in this, and willing to try it, just write me a pm (five member only at this moment). I'll ask you a question which you can answer if you have the effect, and I'll send you what I've came up with. Norbert |
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Prager Inner circle e-Mentalism.com 1858 Posts |
I sent you a PM Norbert.
I´m in love too with this effect.
Jose Prager
The man who knows how to amuse and mystify www.e-mentalism.com Secret products for mentalists. |
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Ben Harris V.I.P. The Land Down Under 2126 Posts |
Great to see that you guys are already thinking about this from different angles. Yes, there are lots of ways to achieve it, and finding the right balance/method is a great exercise!
I'm following Xray (if I'm seated at a table) by reading through the back of menus, business cards, etc. I'm simply using my iPHONE as a reflector. It sits in my lap, screen side up. Makes a perfect and large reflecting surface! Benny
+Inventor of the world famous Floating Match+
+Author: Machinations (Vanishing Inc, 2020)+ EVERYTHING BEN HARRIS |
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