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It has been a very long hesitation before deciding if this review should be posted or not.... I picked this app last week and loaded it into my phone... and even now, 7 days and twenty performances later, I'm still amazed by the GENIOUS thinking behind the whole routine!

It’s truly BAFFLING… so baffling I really want to stop writing this so I can keep this for myself!! $64.99 is really a cheap price to pay considering this can be as strong as Leipzig would have loved this and as emotional as Armando’s empanada… especially if you consider being able to perform it anytime anywhere with no (or just a mini) setup with any workable deck…

Yes, it is that good!
CardOracle is something that will fool the most suspicious heckler as it will completely fool your best most experienced magician buddy…

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Full Routine overview as YOU will perform it
You launch CardOracle and give your iPhone and an ordinary deck of playing cards to a spectator. From this moment, you are no longer going to touch your phone, nor are you going to manipulate the deck: everything happens right in the spectator's hands. Can’t be more fair!
The deck is removed from its case and thoroughly shuffled by a spectator. They deal 5 cards face down on the table. The deck is then shuffled again by the spectator and 4 of the 5 cards turned face up and keyed one by one into the CardOracle application which then makes a prediction. 'The next card will be... (for instance) the King of Hearts'. The fifth card is turned over: it IS the King of Hearts!
This is just the beginning though...
The spectator then deals 4 face down cards. These are shuffled and one is placed aside. The remaining three cards are keyed into CardOracle in the order they wish. Once again, CardOracle makes a prediction as to what card is next and, when the fourth card is turned over, it is the predicted card!
But things are still far from over...
The spectator turns over half the deck and shuffles once more. They freely choose 2 of the face-up cards and enter these in CardOracle. Yet again, CardOracle predicts without fail what card is next!
Now for the grand finale!
The iPhone is shaken and a whole deck of cards appears on the screen, the top card being the same as the one on the deck on the table - let's say it's the 3 of Spades.
The next card on the iPhone is the 5 of Clubs. So it is on the deck!
Following that is the Queen of Hearts on both the iPhone and the deck!
And so on, and so on!
In front of the bemused and bedazzled spectator's eyes, the iPhone has managed to predict the order of the entire shuffled deck, right after it had been shuffled by them!



I can't really say more without revealing some of the gems behind that masterpiece... All I can say is after 14 years into magic, I'm very difficult to please with the new effects coming on the market... averagely I only find one true gem in 10 DVDs...

Because I always thought a good effect should get at least more than 8 out of 10 in the following areas:

-How genious the method is...
-How easy workable and angleproofed the whole performance is...
-How streamlined and direct the effect's impact is...
-How strong and emotional is that impact...
-How much room to build up drama around the effect...
-How impossible the backtracking of the method is for the clever spectator...

And I can say it again... CardOracle is that Good... with Iforce, definitely the CLEVEST killer app ever made!
A little hesitation on spending $64.99 on one app? Yes I had... Now I think it deserves to cost $200! ...and I'm sure you will PM me to thank me for letting you discovering this!! Smile

just my 2 cents...
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What a great review Yif,

You've totally sparked my interest in this amazing app.

As amazing as it is, the only drawback that I can see is, this is intended for a longer, formal, performance. It's the kind of effect that demands the respect of the audience for more than a minute.

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The effect sounds really good.
But
How is the audience think?
Will they think "Iphone is good" instead "The magician is good"?
Because it's all done by the machine.

How is your thought?

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Hi I bought this two days ago.

My first thought was it's not for me.
But with all effects I have to try them out to see what reaction I get.

My first test was the wife test. All I can say is it blew her away.
She had a facial expression of total confusion
With a smile from ear to ear. As I mainly only perform my own
Creations in magic/mind reading etc.
She said. Did you make that. I wish lol

It took me back how strong this was. Was nit expecting it.

My second performance was to mymagic mate.
Whom I met up with last night to show him my latest creations.

And have a session.

I told him I also bought the most expensive app that I have ever purchased.

But I am not sure I like it. He said show it to me.

So I did. At every phase of the routine he shouted WHAT!!!!! The F***

He couldn't catch his breath. He said it was the best app

He has seen.

Am I now a believer in this app. You bet I am.

Only two performances I know. But the reactions I got was

Outstanding.

Is it worth the price tag. I think so!

And because it's so high in price. Not so many will purchase it.

Bonus for me.

Maybe I shouldn't have put this review.

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Thanks for your kind words. New update in few weeks
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Will this work on an iPod touch with iOS 3.1.2?
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Yes it will work with ipod touch 3.1.2

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Hi Yves,

I just bought Cardoracle and it has a problem on a iPhone §GS with iOS 4.1.

The program crashes after pressing "PREDICT" in phase 2.

I already tried to reinstall it - but with the same result.

Isn't it compatible with the newest iOS?

Will you work on this?

Thanks&Regards
Dirk
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Dirk,

Did you read/look at the instructions before trying ?
This is totally normal. If you enter the wrong cards in phase 2 (ie the prepared ones) it means that you somewhere mistaken.
Regarding audience point of view, if the program seems to crush you still look good. it seems that the machine fails.
So this is a security to make the performer look good (machine's responsability) if the performes misses something.

Hope this is clear.
Hope this will make you feel the degree of perfection we puted in this amazing routine.
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Yves,

Thanks for the explanation - it was my fault as I used also the fifth Card from the setup what was wrong.
Of course I have read the instruction and in the routine Description of phase 2 there it is not mentioned that the program will quit in Case of wrong entered cards -at least in the english instructions of the app. from the german store.
Anyway - now it works perfectly.

Dirk
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Yves - there's also no mention of where the high/low threshold is AND whether the Ace is high or low. I had to find out for myself which was a little annoying. Perhaps an idea for the update? Great thing when it gets going though!
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Thanks for your comments. The next release will be very soon. We will make these changes in the instructions.
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Sounds great except...

The advertising says "You launch CardOracle and give your iPhone and an ordinary deck of playing cards to a spectator. From this moment, you are no longer going to touch your phone, nor are you going to manipulate the deck: everything happens right in the spectator's hands. Can’t be more fair!"

Yet Yves refers a couple of posts back to having to enter cards in to the app yourself.

If the first statement is, in fact, correct and you do not touch the phone during this effect then this is an absolute miracle and I will buy this as soon as I can enter a 'wifi' zone... having said that, it still sounds good even if you DO touch the phone...

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Nope no touching is needed on this, the spectator can do all of the work!

Best Wishes Michael
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On 2011-01-27 10:19, celebrity wrote:
Nope no touching is needed on this, the spectator can do all of the work!

Best Wishes Michael


So... really, you don't touch the iPhone and you don't touch the cards - exactly as described? Sounds too good to be true!

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Ok, bit the bullet and picked this up. Haven't performed it yet but I have read the instructions and understand MOST of the mechanics. The concept is absolutely brilliant and I cannot wait to try this out.

The only problem I have with this is in the instructions for the first phase - I'll contact Yves directly about this rather than risk any exposure on the site.

Cheers,

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No reply to my question yet - will wait a bit then post it here if no response (as cryptically as I can).

Did notice something though - there's no 'delete' button on the app to let the Spectator fix a mistake or miskey. Would be extremely useful to have this added.

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Jamie,

Sent you a message about your question. hope it gives you answers. If you have further questions, email is perfect.
I'm in Las Vegas for a few days. so not very email reactive.
To delete a card, just shake the iPhone.

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Yeah it's all good.

Love this routine and it's well worth the money.

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... Just tried it and shaking doesn't delete the last card entered, unfortunately. Would really appreciate this functionality - or a 'delete' button in an update if possible...

Cheers,

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Hey guys,

This is an AWESOME app, I love it and I've performed it a few times.

To delete a card, simply double tap the card you wish to delete Smile

I do have a problem with the app, I've been practicing countless times and this problem is becoming more and more apparent; the final phase where I shake the iPod to reveal the deck doesn't seem to work all the time. So I went to the multi-tasking bar and closed the app. Then, I started it up again and I practiced and it was ok, the final phase worked. Then, today, I made sure that the program was not on in the multi-tasking bar before starting the app, and AGAIN I could not shake the iPod in the final phase.

I'm not sure if any other people have experienced this or not, but Yves, you need to sort this out A.S.A.P. because this trick is too good to NOT show anyone!

Perhaps you can program it so that you can slide the screen sideways to reveal the deck. I think that would look classier and more elegant, but that's my personal opinion.

Do let me know if/when you've fixed this Yves!

And congrats on the amazing app!

It's worth every cent!

Stay safe,

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On 2011-02-03 00:07, Logan wrote:
To delete a card, simply double tap the card you wish to delete Smile


Thanks Logan - perfect.

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We posed the question to Yves in France on this subject -> it's simply that the IDOP is fully charged so that he can walk without worries.

But actually it would be better with extra Security.
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Hi guys,

Thanks for youk ideas and comments about the app.
Logan, you're right, it's double tapping, not shake for delete. I was jet-lagged...

Regarding the last phase
We discover a disfunctonnality about the last phase. It does exist. Nothing about your device.

Cause : this app has been developped before IOS4. Multitasking can make little trafic jam in the memory of your device causing the last phase to be verrrrrry long (2 to 4 minutes). Which is NOT workable.

We want our custommers to be more than happy and confident so :

Short therm solution : turn your device off BEFORE performing CardOracle. This is not what you expect for such an app but it does work. You can use it rght now.

Medium term solution : We have already solved the problem. We are coding it, it will be included in the next update. We have also have to test it hard before releasing. I'll let you know when ASAP.

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Jamie: Anytime buddy.

Yves: Anxiously awaiting the update and thanks for being honest and forthright about the glitch. I'll be sure to turn it off and on again should I wish to perform it; not the best solution but it'll have to suffice for now.

Stay safe,

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Yves,

Any news on the update??
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Hi there !

Today we uploaded on apple platform the new update of CradOracle.

At the menue :
- correction of bugs
- Possibility to change the background
- credits update

Be ready to update in the bext days !

BTW we are open to every new design. If you have anything to propose us, email me. Yous skin will be added to the next update !



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It seems that it doesn't work for the kings...
exemple : 2D 5C 7D JH can't lead to the KS

the bug is with me or not?

have I to wait for the update or have I to update myself?
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Ricardo,

Bug with you, but that's ok.
It does works for the kings. Read carefully the explanations. I Pmed you.

You'll have to update your app in a few days.

Y
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Yves,

thank you, I updated myself.

Did I say that I love your app?

I say it.
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