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I have got Shawn Farquhar's torn & restored photo effect and it's a work of genius!

However, am I the only one who can't get the software to perform as it should?

I have Photoshop,- can't get the quick-set-up guide to function.
I have Gimp,- can't get that to even load the guide.

This is one heck of a trick, but I need to be able to construct the required item to be able to perform it.

Has anyone out there (maybe even Shawn himself) got a solution to my dilema?
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I used Microsoft Word, and it seemed Ok.

Magicmonk I have PM'd you. If anyone else is interested in my low tech workaround, PM me with proof you have the DVD (e.g. the 5th word on the second line of the back cover etc..) and I'll send it to you.

Like I said, it works for me - each to their own!
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Open one of the template files that are on the DVD in Photoshop. One of the newer versions of PS will work better (ie., CS3, CS4, CS5) as they have the newer feature called Smart Objects that will REALLY help you with your photo. But any photo program will allow you to manually edit your pic also. Just follow the template and Shawn's excellent teaching on the DVD . . .
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However, am I the only one who can't get the software to perform as it should?


I initially had immense trouble getting the PhotoShop template to work. It turned out I was clicking the wrong part of the layers window. I can no longer recall the exact details. Perhaps I was clicking on text when I should have been clicking an icon, or vice versa. I recall getting frustrated, leaving it alone overnight, and lucking into the solution the next morning.

My advice is to keep trying. Smile
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I am also having issues pulling up the full template in Gimp.
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For those of you who are using photoshop - I'm quite surprised as that cost several hundreds of pounds - especially the newer editions...

are you trying it in photoshop elements too?
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I am using Gimp on Mac and also facing the problem to have the full template to load. Some parts of the template are missing. Maybe will try to recreate the template in Pages.
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Will the template work with Photoshop Elements 8
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On 2010-10-23 14:01, IAIN wrote:
For those of you who are using photoshop - I'm quite surprised as that cost several hundreds of pounds - especially the newer editions...


In case my previous post wasn't clear, the PhotoShop software didn't turn out to be the problem. *I* turned out to be the problem.

I don't have Elements, so I don't know if the template will load in Elements. Kinda doubt it.
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No need to use photo software. Make a copy of the picture and do what needs to be done to the copy. Then make a copy of that.

You're welcome.
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Are there any other threads on this effect that deal with things other than making up the photo?
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I just ordered this
As a photographer I'm interested in any effects using photos

I think this will have more connection with a audience than a torn and restored card

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Aligator,

The original version of this is Dan Harlan's CRAZY-8 which is a card revelation effect.

Also, Dan Harlan released a version using an actual DOLLAR BILL that starts normal and really ends up mismade. You need to buy a sheet of Dollar Bills from the U.S. Treasury to make these up.

I started making the needed T2P photos using the Microsoft Publisher program.
You can set up a grid to make the crops more perfect to design the gaff.
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However you decide to make the gaffs, once they are made you'll have a KILLER effect in your hands (no pun intended)! As a Magi that isn't 100% confident in his sleight of hand, I've performed this a half dozen times with NO PROBLEMS. It is awesome . . .
It would really be quite tragic
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That's great to hear - I'm kinda bad with sleight of hand and so would love to hear your estimation about difficulty of this. I fully agree with Steve that this has tremendous potential when used with custom photos.
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I too would like to hear some comments on the difficulty level of performing(not constructing) this effect. PM if necessary.
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I would say that on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being "VERY DIFFICULT" and 1 being "SELF WORKING", I'd say that it is a 2.5 or 3 out of 10. The gaff makes the end "SELF WORKING", but the in between is where the minor sleight of hand is involved. Trust me, with my lack of confidence, and shaky hands to boot, I have done it successfully every time. If I can do it, anyone can!
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Emyers99,

No, it will not work with Photoshop Elements 8. You need a full version of Photoshop to make the automatic template work. With Gimp, I think the issue is that the version of Gimp that is now out, version 2.6, has changed up something that has affected the T2P templates. When you pull them up in this version of Gimp, you can't see the fragmented pieces of the photo. you can edit them, but you can't see them to be able to "line it up" (those of you who have this will understand). Luckily for me I also have a full version of Photoshop and the template works perfectly, exactly as Shawn demonstrates on the DVD. This is a fantastic effect and I'm glad that Shawn fully credits and discusses Dan Harlan's "Crazy Eights" and acknowledges that Dan's came first. I have Dan's effects off of his new lecture DVD, but I think I like the photograph idea better. I'm performing at a 60th birthday party in a few weeks and I'm going to use a 5x7 picture of the "birthday boy" in a nice frame as part of my parlor show. I think that will be long remembered and will bring repeat business from this client as well as new business from other guests at the party!

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Thanks Hank.
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This actually will work with Photoshop Elements 8.
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I knew you were too cheap to buy the full version of photoshop.
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Hi Folks,

Just dropping by the Café while hanging out in Beijing ... Facebook is banned so more time for magic!

The folks at GIMP upgraded their program and the .psd templates no longer translate perfectly. I have made a template of the small photo in GIMP format for those of you wanting to use GIMP and are having problems. Please email me and I will ask for proof of purchase and send you a link to the new template file.

I guess you can't anticipate an outside source like GIMP changing their program. I know the template will work with any Photoshop from CS2 and up ... Low cost versions of CS2 (2005) can be found for as little as $90 on eBay. I have not tested it with Photoshop Elements but if Michael Dustman says it works... that good enough for me... ( I do however suspect it is not automated as smart objects is not part of that software ...correct me if I'm wrong.)

Regarding skill level. It is very basic and I think I give a pretty good explanation of the handling and have reduced it to almost no skill necessary ... other than presentation.

Thanks for you interest and support of Torn 2 Pieces ... next item to be released is MatriXpress and then final filming of the Signed Card in Sealed deck ... with a new name since the one I have been using has been "borrowed" by another ...

Cheers,

Shawn
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While I'm waiting for this to arrive, I'm thinking of a premise that works for me regarding why leave the person with a miss-made photo.

The idea I've come up with is to show the photo, and tell the story of how the person went missing, just at the time a serial killer was on the loose.

I tell how all his victims were found cut into four pieces, and laid out neatly on the ground.

Then give them the photo.

OK I'm a bit creepy, but it's the first thing I came up with.


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I don't have an interesting story when I do T2P. I just do it! That's good enough for most people!

Shawn, can you tell us more about MatriXpress? I have seen you do the Signed Card in Sealed deck, so I already know how awesome that one is . . .
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As for making the picture, I'm a command line sort of guy, and I use the free ImageMagick software <http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php>. I use the "identify" command to get the original size, then write a tiny batch file that uses "crop", "resize", and "montage" to create the final picture. If you're new to ImageMagick, as I was, there is a learning curve, but it's nowhere near as steep as the learning curve for PS or Gimp!

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If anyone needs help creating what they need to do this effect, I can do it for them. Just PM me, and I'll ask for some proof that you own the effect before I'll accept a jpeg from ya! If I get too many requests, I'll have to turn some people away, but I think only a few of you aren't fluent with the software. I am a graphic designer, so it is no problem for me to do it in minutes . . .
It would really be quite tragic
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I really lurve this effect! Brilliant thinking from Shaun and a really lovely, easy to perform and powerful effect. I've made up some photos of the Corpse Bride all ready for Halloween. Smile
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The Corpse bride is a cool idea for halloween.

I don't think mine will arrive in time unfortunately


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Well Steve, you could play the part of the grinch and rip up Sanata Claus. Smile
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Mr aligator
I thought you were a nice guy.
I never believed all those things they said about you.

Now I'm thinking maybe they were right.

Just watch out. Don't forget....I know where you live.

Now... how do I get this photoshop to start????


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