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houston_3721
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Hello there,

A friend of mine shows interests in magic and I'd like to recommend him to start with Joshua Jay's "MAGIC: The Complete Course" and/or "Amazing Book of Cards".

I have read the Complete Course but not the card one. I think the Complete Course is quite a good book for complete beginners and Joshua is a very good teacher.

What are your thoughts?

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I have never read the card one either but TCC is definitely where to start. That's where I got started....that and Bill Tarr. If you can find something by Bill Tarr, reccommend that to him too.
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Joshua Jays book is a pretty good book for someone showing interest in magic. I also liked Mark Wilsons Complete Course in Magic and Bill Tarr's Now You See It Now You don't
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Thanks for the input

I recommended the two Joshua Jay's books to my friend because I think they are targeted to general public which would make them easier to get in book stores.

He seems to like cards more, and he said he would go for the card one. I will definitely recommend more classics to him once he has started his journey.
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On 2010-11-10 06:59, houston_3721 wrote:
Thanks for the input

I recommended the two Joshua Jay's books to my friend because I think they are targeted to general public which would make them easier to get in book stores.

He seems to like cards more, and he said he would go for the card one. I will definitely recommend more classics to him once he has started his journey.


if he wants the other book, he could find it really easy in a libary
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The DVD that comes with Joshua's book is quite good. Well-instructed, easy-to-do, commercial magic. Nothing ground-breaking, but consistent in its quality.

Joshua has some good chops and inviting charm. If you've ever seen him live, he definitely connects with his audience. I find him enjoyable to watch.
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Kaufman's Knack Magic book is a good one as well and of course Harry Lorayne's The Magic Book.
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In fact, I got MAGIC from the library again today and am re-reading it. There's so much in there and the DVD is outstanding. If Mr. Jay ever reads this, you did a great job on the book!!!!!!!
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I haven't been able to find much about Joshua Jay's Amazing Book of Cards here on the Magic Café.

As an owner of Joshua Jay's Complete Course in Magic, I can confirm that it's a brilliant starting point for beginners, and has some helpful material for intermediate amateurs as well, with a good range of material, high quality pictures/formatting, and great accompanying DVD. A really good value product I can recommend for people starting out.

I am less enthusiastic about Joshua Jay's Amazing Book of Cards from what I've seen of it so far. I don't own it, so I'm just going by what I'm seeing online, but from what I can tell here's how it compares with the Complete Course in Magic:
1. It is shorter: The Amazing Book of Cards book is 208 pages (versus 278 pages for the Complete Course), and the DVD is 106 minutes (versus 132 minutes).
2. It has less impressive card tricks: The nine card tricks that are included seem quite elementary/common (e.g. 10-20 force, one ahead principle), unlike the ten more stunning card tricks included in the Complete Course (e.g. Out of this World, Invisible Deck, Ashes on the Arm, Do As I Do).
3. It is more about card manipulation/stunts: The first half of the book is primarily about card handling (e.g. spreads, fans, cuts, shuffles) while the second half is about hustles and stunts. So the Amazing Book of Cards is less about card tricks than other card work, and it doesn't let you progress very far at all into card magic.

I'm really left wondering who the audience for Amazing Book of Cards is. It's more for complete beginners rather than amateurs, and while it teaches you fun things with flourishes and stunts, it won't get you very far in learning card magic. The Complete Course seems far more useful and well rounded, and a much better choice for most people. I only wish that that Amazing Book of Cards had more in the way of better card tricks, and then it could have been a fantastic book. But not owning that book, am I completely wrong?
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Jay's card book was okay, but the thing that impressed me was the deck that was packaged with it. I don't know, it might just have been a fluke, but the deck was as fine a stripper as I have ever held. Almost thought that there was something wrong with a few of the cards then realized what I had. The touch is gossamer like.

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It comes with a DVD, but I don't think Joshua Jay's The Amazing Book of Cards comes standard with a deck of cards does it?

I found one magic retailer (link) that includes a deck of cards along with the book, but judging from the reviews over at Amazon.com and elsewhere online, there's no mention of a deck being included with this book.

Could the deck just have been an additional bonus from the retailer you purchased this from?
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I remember flipping through Amazing Book of Cards. It was like any other book at Borders, unwrapped, just sitting on a shelf waiting to be flipped through, and did not come with a deck of cards. Of course, that was a while back, back when Borders was still open. Maybe a second printing includes the deck?
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On Jun 14, 2016, Topov wrote:
It comes with a DVD, but I don't think Joshua Jay's The Amazing Book of Cards comes standard with a deck of cards does it?

I found one magic retailer (link) that includes a deck of cards along with the book, but judging from the reviews over at Amazon.com and elsewhere online, there's no mention of a deck being included with this book.

Could the deck just have been an additional bonus from the retailer you purchased this from?



The purchase was made at a Barnes and Noble bookstore. Came as a blister pack of Book, DVD and deck of cards.

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I recently ordered a copy of Joshua Jay's The Amazing Book of Cards online, and when it arrives I will try to remember to post here about whether or not it came with a deck of cards as Stanyon reports, or just the DVD.

For anyone considering the book, here's a listing of the contents:

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On Jun 16, 2016, Stanyon wrote:
The purchase was made at a Barnes and Noble bookstore. Came as a blister pack of Book, DVD and deck of cards.


Interesting. My copy of Joshua Jay's book on cards arrived today - it came with a DVD, but not with a deck of cards.

See also the thread here, which describes the product as being a combo with a book and DVD:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......c=366993
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