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MagicMason Loyal user 300 Posts |
Hi Norm
What are your favourite card plots? What have you noticed are some card magician's favourite cards plots... and conversely what do laymen/spectators love to see? Good luck to you and thanks for sharing your insights! Tom |
Norman Beck V.I.P. 106 Posts |
Tom,
YOu asked several questions in very short order. Let me start by telling you what I don't like. I don't like adventures of the props. I don't enjoy and find most card tricks to be very boring. I think most ace assemblys are boring as the magician has nothing to say other than watch the cards move from pile to pile. YOu must get the spectator interested in order for it to be entertaing and sad to say most card tricks are not entertaing. I like any plot that has conflict of some type in it and involves the spectator. I love Paul Potasy ( I think I mispelled his name) cards across, his version of brainwave, Out of this world, Oil and Water(because I have something that make sense) I hate the premise of the plot of oil and water as the basis for what you say. I like the ambitious card very much. I want the spectator to be able to tell someone next week what they saw and it to be crystal clear in there mind what happened most of the time that is not the case. I also do not like in general that use two decks. I think laymen love to see anything that is entertaining. I would think that BIll Malone could do almost any card trick and they would love him as he has I think the best personality as close up magicians go and it wouldn't matter what he did they would love it; For the rest of us mere mortals we need to pick good tricks. As a side note BIll picks good tricks as well. My favorite trick I would guess is a card to an impossible location. My favorite in that area is card under seat or card under watch. |
Norman Beck V.I.P. 106 Posts |
I was right it is Paul Potassy. I am not a fan of DVD's in general but the three dvd set of Mr. Potassy is great. A person after watching it can see what happens when you spend your life in the real world working for real people. We lose track of what it is really like to work for real people. In most places you don't have a nice close up pad and a place to sit and no bad angles. Mr. Potassy really drives home the point. I think it is a great learing tool
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Hey Norman: If you find most card tricks very boring, you've been watching the wrong performers. It's most often the performer who is boring, not the trick he's doing. No? I'm asking because I'm getting nervous - the ONLY magic I do is card stuff, and I'd hate to think that I was boring people. Best - and welcome - Harry L.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
http://www.harrylorayne.com http://www.harryloraynemagic.com |
Norman Beck V.I.P. 106 Posts |
Harry,
I know better than to argue with you. YOu will beat me with your talent in that area. I think you are correct that many a good card trick is boring due to a poor performer. I also know your not nervous as you are one of the most talented performers in the country. I will say this that if you did a show, did several card tricks and then did your wonderful memory work the next day they would talk about the memory much more than the card tricks. I won't get into argument with you on this subject about card tricks. I think we are on the same page and even if we are not I will say we are as I don't want to spar with you. PS. To anyone reading this I will give 10 to 1 odds that Harry responds to this. |
Norman Beck V.I.P. 106 Posts |
I Hold Harry Loranyne in the highest regard as both a writer and a performer. He has written some great books on card magic and I have first hand watched him work and if you haven't seen him you should make it a point to watch a true master. I was at Fectors the year he was the guest of honor and he knows more card tricks than I know jokes.
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Norman Beck V.I.P. 106 Posts |
A question I like to ask people when they tell me that they have just seen a magician is This-"What did they do? Most of the time they can't remember what the magician did other than he did some card tricks. The single trick that I have had more people either email me or tell me about is a trick that Bill Malone is known for "Sam the Bellhop". I also have had people talk about card to wallet or card on the ceiling. I think a good test would be to ask the people that work at L and L what card tricks they remember and which ones did they like the best. Mike Rogers once told me that the single best card trick that was ever invented was Brainwave and that once you did that trick you could not follow it as it was simply that strong. My guess is that we may have a New York Magician or two argue that point. Please understand this is one magicians thought on the matter and he is not around anymore to debate with us. I think he was right. One problem that I have with the internet is that anything I say or Harry says is simply what we think and it doesn't make us right or wrong. My goal this week is to simpley make people think and perhaps toss out an idea or two that has helped me.
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gourdini New user 76 Posts |
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On 2010-12-12 21:33, Norman Beck wrote: This Norman Beck is quite clever- he has come up with a sure fire way to gid rid of Mr. Lorayne. If Harry responds, he loses face by proving Norm to be correct. If he does not respond, he looks cheap for trying to prove Norm incorrect. A loose-loose situation for Harry! |
Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Gourdini: Psychology 101; such great insight. Better if you went at least as far as 102! I assume you meant "lose, lose." Stay loose. HL.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
http://www.harrylorayne.com http://www.harryloraynemagic.com |
Norman Beck V.I.P. 106 Posts |
I knew my money was safe. Good Morning Harry.
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gourdini New user 76 Posts |
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On 2010-12-14 10:56, Harry Lorayne wrote: Yes you are right Harry- I passed 101, dropped out of 102, and failed spelling- but at least I got through many fine Harry Lorayne books- an asset to my magical education! Harry Rules! Best- Gourdini |
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