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Dave Le Fevre Inner circle UK 1666 Posts 
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On 2009-10-01 13:51, Oscar999 wrote: Docc suggests that if the specified item is selected part-way through the performance, then you end then and there. But while that makes sense, I always continue until I get to just two items ..... because I think that that subtlety to which you refer packs such real power. Dave
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Mick Ayres Special user Hilton Head Island 998 Posts
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For those that are reading this thread for the resource-information about equivoque...if you promise not to tell, there is an excellent chapter on the subject carefully hidden within the pages of Lewis Jones' "Encyclopedia of Impromptu Card Forces". Also, Bryn Reynold's 'Seven' and my own 'Cast Away' are two more effects that take advantage of the principle.
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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4192 Posts
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On 2009-11-18 15:32, Mick Ayres wrote: Pssst, but thanks. Jan
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mindhunter.jpg "View Profile"){kind=tracking} Inner circle Upstate NY 2280 Posts
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On 2009-11-18 15:32, Mick Ayres wrote: Thanks for the mention of SEVEN, Mick! Some great equivoque-related sources are mentioned within here... Bryn
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Jonathan Inner circle Oklahoma 1223 Posts
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How restrictive is the definition of "equivoque"? I use what I believe is the basic concept in a lot of ways, some of which don't resemble "magician's choice" at all. But, if the only qualification is using changeable responses to lead to the same eventual conclusion (although, maybe not all of the conclusion is revealed?), then I guess it would fall under the umbrella of "equivoque".
Or is the definition more specific? BTW, I absolutely love it and I believe it is one of the top 3 most powerful tools in our arsenal...one which blows the minds of magicians in the audience! M*****le o*ts being another (which I believe is a cousin of equivoque and sometimes the line between them is a bit blurred). |
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On 2009-11-18 13:05, Dave Le Fevre wrote: Dave, good idea to continue on. Thanks for the tip.
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Todd Robbins V.I.P. New York 2922 Posts
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Pick up two of these books,and now hand me one...
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Jonathan Inner circle Oklahoma 1223 Posts
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If you could only recommend one book on the subject to read (assuming the mentalist already knew what equivoque was), which one would you suggest?
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Dompa Loyal user Germany 249 Posts
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If you could only recommend one book on the subject to read (assuming the mentalist already knew what equivoque was), which one would you suggest? I already asked the same question and got NO answer so far. I think that means that all the mentioned books are worth to read and all of them have some usefull information and twists in it... |
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gabelson Inner circle conscientious observer 2137 Posts
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On 2009-09-23 23:12, Turk wrote: E'Voque is wonderful. IMHO, Docc's most significant work. |
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Anthony Jacquin Inner circle UK 2220 Posts
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On 2009-08-10 01:58, nboisen wrote: I second that. I found Joshua Quinns thoughts on this the most insightful I have come across. I thoroughly recommend you get his book Paralies.
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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Anthony, I second your recommendation of Paralies, there are some brilliant ideas in there, especially regarding Equivoque.
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Samuel Catoe Inner circle South Carolina 1268 Posts
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On 2009-09-25 10:41, Dompa wrote: Dominik, I haven't read the Eldridge book so can't compare it, but here's what my book offers. It is a primer. I take the technique and break it apart and look at each step of using a routine that I have been performing for quite a few years. I also offer my advice regarding the scripting and performance of equivoque routines as well as some other ideas. There are about seven different routines/ideas in the book, two from Greg Arce, one from Paolo Cavalli, one from Nicolas Belleas, and three from myself. If you have read extensively about equivoque, I doubt that you will read anything new in either my book or David's (thought I haven't read it and don't know for certain) and would recommend you begin searching for the Berglas book. Sam Catoe
Author of Illusions of Influence, a treatise on Equivoque.
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David Alexander Special user 623 Posts
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I will toss in my two cents here and give a vote for Docc's "E'Voque." Docc had me "beta testing" it a year before we recorded it at the L&L studio which was well before he released it as a printed booklet.
It is massively inexpensive for what the working performer gets... a great bargain. Early on (before L&L) I did it for a well-informed young mentalist. I did it for him three times in a row, using the same verbiage each time. Each time the "prediction" was corect. He had to admit that he had no clue what I was doing and I didn't tell him. It works and it works consistently. It is one of the very best bits of impromptu mentalism. Candidly, I'm sorry Docc published it as I would have rather it been kept private. |
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Dompa Loyal user Germany 249 Posts
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Dominik, Since my last post I had the chance to read David Eldridge's book 'Mind Control' which I really enjoyed. As you said, there is no new revolutionary technique or enhancement of equivoque. Once you understood the basic concept and the necessary routes to go you are ready to perform equivoque to great entertainment succes. BUT and therefore I must disagree on your statement in some way, I found in each and every book on equivouqe something usefull for me! There are little nuances, new ideas to camouflage the process or at least new words with an ambiguous direction that can make the little but fine difference. So there were indeed some good thoughts in 'Mind Control'. For anyone interested: Mind Control is available directly through David Eldrige as an ebook. My concluding recommendation about equivoque is: Read as much as possible and don't forget to practice it as ofthen as possible to get the needed coolness for it! Best, Dominik PS: By the way Sam, is your book also available as an ebook? |
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Mb217 Inner circle 9530 Posts
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I'm a coin guy but like the mentalism stuff some.
I actually learned Docc's "Equivoque" (the great mentalism effect) quite a while back now but never performed it (Also learned his "Nightmare Coins" - nice effect). Equivoque is very slick and quite affordable, an absolutely masterful effect and not hard at all to do. You just have to remember the steps (and they are easy enough) to reveal some astounding mental magic.
Think I have read the Maven booklet and Eldridge's Mind Control book as well to some degree and eventually remembered that I was a coin guy.  I didn't need any ever-deepening, in-depth explanations of the use of equivoque, I just wanted to know better why it worked as it did.
I typically use the basic method of Magician's Choice as I first learned it in Maven's brilliant "B'wave," and I enjoy using it in a more recent trick I do now "Ultimate Positive Negative," which basically is another effect that emanates from Maven's more basic uses in his "Positive Negative" effect with invisible coins as to the use of Magician's Choice aka "Equivoque." It's a nice thing to know and use once you get comfortable with it, and its uncanny workings on people still amaze me.
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Dovewars New user 34 Posts
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I'm getting frustrated at not being able to get hold of any of these books and my technique surely needs help. Anyone recommend a good ebook?
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cryder New user 75 Posts
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The first I've read was from max maven, then I found Docc Hillford E'voque that was really nice. Also there is a four pages routine based on equivoque in "Chestosterone" from Chester Sass. Well written and quite effective.
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Lord Of The Horses Inner circle 5406 Posts
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On 2010-08-20 17:16, Dovewars wrote: Peter, what's stopping you from getting ANY of the sources given here? All / Most of them are still sold. And, please, let's include to the list the compilation made by the late Jack Dean in "The Equivoque Choice".
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Dovewars New user 34 Posts
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On 2010-08-21 09:03, Lord Of The Horses wrote: Nothings stopping me I just wanted something NOW I was going to use an item which used Equivoke today and hoped to get hold of something fast. Now I will just wait and buy the books. I hate the idea of using the technique badly..
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