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vinsmagic
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Vlad thank you for mentioning my Toss control which is based on Steve Bedwell's Dribble toss .
my all time favorite control is the Hop
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For me:
1. Vertical Pass
2. Frozen Palm Control
3. Overhand false shuffle.
I use 1. when I am doing a routine, like ACR.
I use 2. when doing any kind of card re-locating, or steals.
I use 3. before any effect where I want to shuffle first, as I rarely ever shuffle or cut the deck during a routine.
A personal preference as I believe shuffling or cutting is too easy of a false explanation for spectators.
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Spread Pass
Midnight Shift
Something from Gary Oullet's book that's a replacement for Double Undercut.
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It depends on the performance situation and what I choose to do at the time.

The pass - side steal - Kelly bottom placement - Tenki placement etc.

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Quote:
Something from Gary Oullet's book that's a replacement for Double Undercut.


Giles Couture's Swivel Cut Control?
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On 2011-01-13 14:01, greydonthemagician wrote:
Fooled by it, it is deceptive if performed correctly. I forget where the credit comes from now, I'm thinking Aaron fisher, but a nice subtly is instead of moving your left hand to bring the cut to the top. Keep the left stationary and move the right hand pack to the bottom of the left hand portion. Then repeat to finish off the cut. It is the right hand doing the work instead of the left.


I seem to recall (subject to being dead wrong) that this is a Michael Sibbernsen idea.
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I was under the impression that it was a Tyler Wilson idea. Or at least that's where I'd learned it.
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Hmmmm.....double undercut occasionally......a simple riffle if the audience is distracted.....or usually a roll-over control followed by a semi-false shuffle (assuming I only need the top card)
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Most of my controls aren't strong enough to use, but I personally use

Cherry Control
Dribble Control (the discrepency version from Dan and Dave bucks "Swiss Made")

I have a few others that I picked up from watching people preform poorly on youtube, so I don't know the names off hand.
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I think this question depends on what effect your using. Performing a pass for one effect might not fly for another one. I for one think the classic side steal from a riffle peek is an incredibly useful control that works from most angles. however if my situation is a bit more intimate, then I like to use a control that unfortunately I've never seen published, but basically you hold half the deck in one hand at chest hight showing the selected card, and the card is displaced as you move your hands down thus changing the frame of focus. I use that because the angles are 100% covered. So Im not sure if having a GO-TO control is the right attitude to have because every situation is different.
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My go to is the pass, mainly the riffle pass or occasionally the spread pass. I am against using the double undercut or well, cuts in general when trying to control a card to the top if I am doing an ACR. IMO it is a lot more convincing to the spectator if all they see is the card go to the middle then suddenly pop up to the top.
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On 2011-01-14 10:46, cardking wrote:
Daniel Garcia's Ego control. it's so straight forward. take the card, shove it in the middle, I usually have the spectator push the card in. it's sooooo sneaky and easy and it makes sense. if you're going to 'lose' a card in the deck why bring cuts and shuffles into the mix? simplify....


I'm not much of a card guy or sleight of hand guy but where can I learn Garcia's Ego control? I am also interested in Asher's Losing Control, how difficult is it to learn and be able to do well? I had Asher Twist but that was way beyond me.

Thank-you,

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The Ego control can be found in his DVD sets from a while back.

The Losing Control is very simple, technically. It relies more on discrepancy than technique.
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My go-to control is either a cull or undercut. For the undercut, I tend to break between the time the card is inserted, a break is obtained, and the undercut happens. Dribbling the cards helps acheive those breaks.
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Double undercut, Bluff pass work best for me.
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As an aside "Marlo's Flexible Switchout" can be used as a very deceptive control. It is slightly similar to Jenning's "Open Control". I have used both...

The former is in "Marlo Without Tears"/J. Racherbaumer and the latter is in "BOF" vol I/H.Lorayne.

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I don't hear this mentioned much, but it is deadly. It is called "Bottomed" by Larry Jennings and can be found in Lorayne's Apocalypse. It is almost like an Ovette master move but a little more lateral if that makes sense, anyway like I said, it's deadly. Check it out.
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As a go-to, I like the overhand shuffle jog, keeping it simple. But I have to throw a word in here for following this with Harry Lorayne's 'status quo shuffle' ... keeping the same rhythm .. and same card on top!
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Personally, I side steal if my angles are good, otherwise I use Chris Brown's Orbit Control, which look similar enough Smile
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I use the overhand jog shuffle
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As you can see from the above, there are a million ways to control a card!

Personally, I think controls are interesting and can look neat in their "not looking like anything at all," but when I'm out performing for a little group or something, I almost ALWAYS use simple control. The double undercut still flies by when you're with the average audience.

If I'm under a little more scrutiny, I will usually dribble half the deck on top of the selection, pick up at the jog and then restore break. One nice way to do this is the In-Frame Control, which looks slick on a table top. In the hands I'll usually double undercut or double overcut (swing the top half to the bottom in two cuts/packets).

In my opinion, the best control is the one you can do without thinking about. It's a lot more about your handling than it is how complex the topology is. That and your confidence.

Lastly, I almost never do "pick a card" stuff anyway...so my favorite control...is a force!
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I either use the pass, Convincing control or the double undercut. Problem about the double undercut is, that you've left the card in the centre - why bother cutting the deck and losing the card "even futher"? anyways, done casually it's really useful and a good dribble/riffle pass is usually completely invicible.
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On 2011-01-31 05:07, pepka wrote:
Something from Gary Oullet's book that's a replacement for Double Undercut.

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Double undercut typically. If someone gives me the evil eye about it then I can follow with an overhand false shuffle. Having folks return the card to the top of the deck saves on effort but is not quite as deceptive.
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Lepaul automatic jog+double undercut/shuffle, losing control.
Really basic I know , I daily train on Diagonal palm shift, invisible pass, and classic pass. but I still don't feel comfortable with doing them. Sometimes I use them when the are suspectful, but not really burning.
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I do a great riffle pass, and use Convincing Control, side steal, DU etc depending on trick. But my go to one is Paul Harris's Flip Flop Pass. Its easy and fools people
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The upside-down card force is good, simple and very disarming. Can be set up easily right under their noses; works a treat for me.
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Sometimes I like to use the action of the Neil Elias Multiple Shift (as I learned it from Dear Mr. Fantasy), even with only one card being inserted.

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I remember watching Tamariz on an old video performing "Neith blind nor stupid " . The spectators cut their chosen cards into the middle of the deck . Tamariz asked "Could I know where your cards are ?" The spectators replied no, at which point Tamariz cries out "yessssssss!!" "they are in the middle of the deck !! " . His scripting justifies his proceeding actions of mixing the deck .

Perhaps with the double under cut much of the conviction is body language and attitude . A simple way to see how a layman perceives your double under cut is to have a card freely chosen , cut the deck about the middle for its return, drop the talon on top and table the deck .

Ask him how much would he be willing to wager that you can't cut direct to his card ?

Repeat the above but this time do so after doing a double under cut and jog shuffle .

For me they have bet far less after the double under cut and shuffle because they believe the card is lost where as the first bet we both know within a few cards give or take exactly where the card is in the middle. It is not lost in 52 cards it is lost with a small range of 5 cards .

As for using the double under cut, rarely use it just on its own but part of my "relaxed control "

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My go to control is either Classic Pass, or Cull - when they select card from face up deck.
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