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Mary Mowder
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Sam,

If the client has been told about the Snow Storm, I don't see a problem.

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I agree with Mary. As long as the client knows up front there will be confetti and they have approved it, then there should be no problem at all. I really think that it goes back to good communication with the client and the venue prior to performance.
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Why not make it a comedy moment and pull out an appearing brush to sweep up the mess with.

I now only book the snow storm if I know I can clean up quickly / or that some-one else can do so.
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Sam,
Most likely the one that signs the contract is not the same one that sweeps up the mess.

I'm sure there are some people out there that hate you. LOL

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As I have several pints of strong beer on the way to parties I often vomit on the floor in front of the children, and then there are the 30 or so cigarette ends I drop on the floor too. My beheading of St. John The Baptist illusion for pre-school children leaves mess (I use rancid meat and brains from the local butcher's shop). This in turn causes the audience to vomit.

:(

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Only joking! I'm practically a tee-totaller these days and don't smoke.

Er, rubbish (garbage) etc. Well absolutely nothing really. Maybe we overlook to take the occasional coffee or tea cup back, but that's all.

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PS: Isn't there someone in our location who DOES have several pints of beer on the way to a party? Smile
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When you ask the client if its okay to make it snow as part of your show, they expect just that - snow. That it will melt away like the real stuff and not be a problem.

What they didn't expect is white confetti all over the floor, in people's hair, and underneath the sofa. They didn't expect you to create such a mess, and then just leave it there for someone else to clean up.

When you ask them if its okay, not only do they not fully understand the effect (having never seen it before), not understand the amount of mess to be made, but I think on some level they expected you to clean it up. As a form of politeness, off course they are going to say Yes. They have never seen the trick before to know what mess it is going to cause. They just think it sounds like fun and agree to anything which keeps the kids out of their hair for a few extra minutes.
But the negative reactions that mess causes are only talked about after you leave. Your onto the next party having left a mess all over the floor. The other parents are talking about the state you left the room / stage / hall in. You have lost all possible repeat bookings, especially those that would have been in a private home as now every parent there thinks you will do the same trick in their living room.

Then, the parent plays a party game with the children, one slips on the confetti and hurts themselves, which is all your fault.

Basically, you are not there for the repercussion of your actions and it will cost you in bad remarks and lost potential repeat bookings.
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I don't know if people expect it or not when they are told of the confetti. However, I just prefer not to take the chance. I think it's human nature to agree to something up front, and then afterwards b**** about it.
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I always like to clean up after myself just so I don't get the reputation of being messy. Sometimes after an event I even have children come up to help me clean up the burst balloons or the paper mouth coils. But I do agree that if you must make a mess and then leave it for clean up then you should let the event planner know in advance. This way they have agreed and will be prepared for the clean up. Reputation is EVERYTHING in this business.

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Negative reactions? if a negative reaction to the snowstorm finale mess is the parents calling me to perform at their child's party and specifically asking for the snow, then yes I get negative reactions all the time.
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Billy Bo, how many shows did you do last year? Because I imagine someone not doing the effect would get more bookings that someone doing it.

Any entertainer will always get some repeat work, based on the fact that your probably the only entertainer that clients knows. It doesn't mean that one trick has helped you get more bookings.

The only way we can really calculate if the trick has actually benefited referral work is to find out how many shows you did and compare it to someone who does not perform the trick. Even then its going to be difficult to calculate but the numbers of shows will give us a general idea.
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You are at it again Stephen....assuming things that are not there and not believing things that people are telling you!!!

Case in point: When you ask the client if its okay to make it snow as part of your show, they expect just that - snow. That it will melt away like the real stuff and not be a problem.

What they didn't expect is white confetti all over the floor, in people's hair, and underneath the sofa. They didn't expect you to create such a mess, and then just leave it there for someone else to clean up.

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I think Tom is right, there are stage hands at the Atlantic City casino's that hate Sam.
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Wait, If I wanted to make it snow, I just hire a snow machine, I've seen DJ's and other entertainers use snow machines all the time. When you say you are going to make it snow, that's what I expect, that you just going to use a snow machine which will create artificial snow that will melt away. These machines are common place nowadays.

I don't think the thought even goes across a clients mind that when you say snow, you actually meant white confetti that gets everywhere and that won't be cleaned up.
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I may be wrong but I think Sam wears a bullet proof vest everywhere he goes. Smile

But seriously, there is a big, big difference in making a mess on a stage and a living room.
This being in the Little Darling section, I assume we talking smaller venues. Certainly you can't
go in a home and just scatter confetti everywhere.

Service repair people are often judged by not only the job they do, but how they leave everything.
The general rule is, leave it in the same condition you find it.
I would think that others would be judged the same way.

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On 2011-01-18 12:07, ku7uk3 wrote:
I don't think the thought even goes across a clients mind that when you say snow, you actually meant white confetti that gets everywhere and that won't be cleaned up.

Unless they've had to clean up the mess, they won't even think about it. But, the first time that they have to clean it up is the time when they'll be irritated. It's not good for repeat business, unless the client expects a big clean-up.
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Snow storm is a very visual trick, and I know children enjoy those fluttering confetti falling all over.
But it causes quite a mess, and the parents have to work very hard after everyone is gone to find every piece of paper, even the ones that
fell between the base board.
A friend of mine did the pop streamers as he was abouit to leave. He thought it would look nice with streamers hanging over the chandelier.
The customer was furious to say the least,the streamers started a fire once it hit the candles on the cake.
That same customer booke me the following year---she told me the story.
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I always pick up any random pieces of robe or broken balloons. If anything, I think the client appreciates the extra level of attention. Also, I'd hate for a toddler to walk by and put a balloon fragment in their mouth. For the most part, a party is going to generate a lot of "mess"--so it's not a big deal--but it's a classy touch to clean up after yourself.
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Ive earnt most of my brownie points when ive helped clear up the hall when we have all arrived and it has been in a mess.
Ive been seen with a sweeper and pan and brush before many parties. I remember one early Sunday morning when the previous nights party didn't know there was a morning booking.
There were blocked toilets and a floor covered in broken glass. It was all hands to the deck to get the show started on time.
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Julie--that's awesome--and can't hurt when it comes to getting tipped!
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England is not a tipping country, but it probably helped the repeat business possibility.
But most importantly, it helped the child have a great party they will never forget.
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