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In my hands, the shags are the easiest for me to work with, but have to say that I've seen the game played with all four that you mentioned, and the all looked great. (I also have seen some pretty bad handling with most of those as well.) I guess it all depends upon what you practice and get used to. Phil Cass, on his dvd, says that he likes the Vernet's, that everyone else hates. If you read some of the posts on the SFS forum, you'll find a lot of people who love the SFS shells. Natural walnut shells were the only shells that were available for a hundred years. I think that Bob Kohler is using the Mags on his dvd ..... and on & on.
Anyway, I'm still waiting for Roscoe to come out with his new shells. I'm anxious to see what they're like.
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Last time I saw Bob Sheets lecture he used a certain brand of shells.

Does anyone know what brand it is?

I have severl sets but not that one.

Answer here or PM me.

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Bob either uses the Black Fox master shells or the Black Fox superior walnut shells. Here's a link.

http://www.chefanton.com/scoundrelsstore/shell_game.htm

The way the copy reads, it kind of sounds like Bob uses the Superior Walnut shells but to my eye and memory, I think he uses the Master Shells. To be sure though, I'd shoot Bob a PM or an email.

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Bob uses the the the Black Fox Master Shells from School For Scoundrels. Isn't that right bob? Correct. Bob.
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Haha!

Thanks Bob.

Also... for those of you who might be interested I'll be posting a video of my second time on the street performing the Boot Camp Routine.
I'll post here on this thread when it's up.

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Okay... the video is up.
But because I can't "un=post" this...

Just PM me and I'll be happy send you the link and password to the video--
It will be taken down after April 1st.

best

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Hey folks

Thanks to everyone who's contacted me about the video... and thanks for the very nice comments.
In fact enough of you have PM'd me to make me go-- what the heck I'll just post the link and remove the password

Here it is:
http://www.vimeo.com/21248206

Enjoy

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Great! Thanks for removing the password! Nice on! Smile
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Just to update...

I've been performing this quite a bit yesterday... but I must be getting sloppy because I was busted not once-- but twice by a 12 year kid.
Ouch!

And I was busted holding out.

Tighten up! And watch your blocking!

d
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Can NOT thank you all enough nor appreciate you enough. The Bootcamp-1-minute workout, improved grip strategies, keep knucles "low and out" have caused my narcissism to become pathologic! Many thanks!!!

Regarding Phil Cass, I recently got a set of the inexpensive Vernet Shells and they hung on the close up mat, even after running them over some fine sandpaper in an attempt to make them workable. But they do work fine on glass, marble and smooth surfaces.

I carry a hard pea, 2 perfect peas and set of S4S Street Shells in my right front pants pocket for the demonstration of the 1 minute workout and further experimenation.

Huzzza!
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I'm really lovin' the one minute workout. I'm about a week in. I have the pattern down. I'm working on getting my moves solid. My biggest issue is the BC to open hand show. I seem to have a little gap between my ring and middle finger between knuckle one and two. It's pretty much where the pea lays. You can see the pea a teeny bit through the gap. I'm worried about that. I trying to adjust my fingers to hide it but it's a bit unnatural right now.

As for fixing the SFS street shells grip issues... if you hit them with the Krylon Fusion Paint in Brown Boots it makes them easy to hold on to. I used three or four coats. Simple and quick. The fusion is made to paint on plastic so no top coat/finish is needed and it has a grip to it.

More soon.

Jimmy
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Jimmy,

There is a better chance than you might expect that the flash you're seeing is only visible from your vantage point. Have someone closely observe things from different vantage points your audience is likely to watch you from... there's a good chance it's all good.

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Glenn,

Do you find that if you have dry hands that it's harder to do the BC move?

Jimmy
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Jimmy,

The condition of your skin could definitely have an affect. I know it certainly does with card handling. I make up a spray concoction with 1/3 glycerin, 1/3 glycerin and rosewater (sold in its own bottle) and 1/3 rubbing alcohol and I keep it in spray bottles. I heard from a good friend and reliable source this was a Marlo idea. Other people use different products to combat the dry hands issue but I've used the above mentioned concoction for the last 10 years or so and it works well for me.

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That's a really great tip Glenn... I'll try it.

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I just posted my a video of me doing the bootcamp drill with my version of the patter. It's the Flea and Shell Game. Let me know what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWBPSG9rO3k
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Nice one. Smile

The revelation on 0:54 isn't that clear. You should place the shell not in front of the pea. The spectator can't see it (from camera angle) because the shell covers the sight to the pea.
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Thanks Bigsmile. I'll tweak that and shoot in lighter conditions. Great feedback wasn't thinking about that.

Jimmy
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Jimmy, I think your mechanics are coming along really great!

Here are a few suggestions though... At the end of both phase 3 and 4, the reveal should be done with the left hand. I also think you'll find the final reveal to play better if you open your left hand and let the pea roll onto the table rather than dropping it to the table from a closed fist.

Keep up the great work. I look forward to seeing your next video. Out of curiosity, how many days were you into boot camp at the time of this video?

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Glenn,

Thanks for the really great feedback. I'll make those corrections right away. I picked up a shell for the first time about 19 days ago. The bootcamp rocks. I've been utterly immersed in the 3 shell game since and even a bit before I started working the shells and Bootcamp. I've read *** near all the material I can get my hands on and have also gone over all the SFS DVDs and many others. All in all, the Bootcamp is the toughest routine move wise and the best learning tool I've found. If you can master the Bootcamp, you can master the shells. And with your bootcamp training it's more than possible, it's a sure thing. Just do it. Thank you to both you and Bob.

All my best,

Jimmy
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