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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
@Slim
It's possible to deal deuces without mechanic's grip, moving and lifting the thumb but let's be honest, it's kinda hard to do. I can do it, but it's not very good. I'll show it some day if you want. I can deal seconds with two other grips also but again, it's not very good. Maybe I'll post that. Thanks for your comments. PS: I extended to 100 views in total, don't moan! |
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jjsanvert Special user Paris, France 581 Posts |
Go fast and see this marvel.
JJS
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Bobbycash Special user Australia 694 Posts |
Real enjoyed it Arnold! Welcome back, great technique and I like the subtle nature of the deal.
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slim23 Veteran user 309 Posts |
@AMcD
Thanks, I get the idea. Sure, it would be nice to see other grips. I mean, once there, the idea, to me, is to see what also can be done with other techniques (i.e. grips, etc). I know purely in a game you only need one grip but to study, it's great. Anyway, thanks again for the video and answers. Slim |
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JFX Regular user 146 Posts |
Looks great. No idea how you can do the push off from that grip
Thanks a lot for sharing this |
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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
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On Apr 25, 2014, JFX wrote: Well, for sure, this one can't be done overnight, it requires a long practice . |
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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
OK, now the Stevens' control, how it should be done!
http://www.arnoldmcdonald.org/code/main.php?p=6200000 In "Cheating (technique)", select "Stevens' Control". (66 views allowed). Comments/questions welcome. |
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slim23 Veteran user 309 Posts |
Ok, WOW!
At the risk of looking like a real zero, that was something!! I usually study or I am able to do part of what you do (in some way at least) but this very nice! I had to take a look back to see what it was about! Slim |
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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
I look like a bit angry in that video . It was shot in order to show to a fellow Magician how this control is done. The guy showed me his version and... I exploded. I like Magicians, I have dozen of Magicians as friends but their techniques are very often very very poor. 10 seconds setup, ultra-slow motion, no "invisibility". So I grabbed a deck, and said "Watch!" lol.
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Bobbycash Special user Australia 694 Posts |
Haven't had a chance to watch it yet but looking forward to it. I've missed the videos Arnold
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Vargas New user France 49 Posts |
Very nice, as always Arnold !
Thank you for it !! |
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Bobbycash Special user Australia 694 Posts |
That jog is mighty fine,looks great to me! I'll have to keep practicing Arnold. Great technique.
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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
Thanks guys.
Yep the jog is tiny here but even doubled in size it's still OK. I really was quite on my nerves while shooting this one . The Stevens' control demonstrated by the guy lasted like 10''... |
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vindar New user Paris, France 62 Posts |
Great video, thanks!
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Julieeng New user 30 Posts |
Hi guys, while working on our Erdnase project, Card Table Artifice for Luminato (see our Magicana website for more detail) we came across this thread. I work with David Ben and as many of you know, David has more than a passing interest in Dad Stevens. He found the AMcD posting and was particularly interested in this thread with the video of the Stevens Control.
David (who is not a member of the Café) asked me to say for him, "With no disrespect to Arnold, it appears that he is working off the description as per Karl Fulves which, I believe is incorrect. That description was based on a reconstruction by Braue, and those notes ended up in Fulves' hands, courtesy of the late Jeff Busby. Here are some videos using, what I believe is a more accurate representation of the technique. Like Arnold, it was just put together a bit hastily today, but you'll get the idea. Hope you find them interesting." VIDEO LINK: http://davidben.com/stevens-control-demo/ |
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splice Inner circle Canada 1246 Posts |
That's very nice of David (and yourself)! Thanks for those videos.
Given that David believes Karl Fulves' version is incorrect, what is the definitive source for this control? I recall from somewhere else that David is/was writing a book on Dad Stevens. Do you have any news or updates to share about it? Thanks again for popping in, it's always nice to see unexpected faces around here! |
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Julieeng New user 30 Posts |
Thank you for the warm welcome.
I bribed David with lunch and got this: “The best description of the move which sadly, has been in plain sight since the early 60s".... If you send more lunch money, maybe we can get more! |
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Julieeng New user 30 Posts |
I must give him cheeseburgers more often... I got more for you, splice:
"....in Dai Vernon’s More Inner Secrets of Card Magic, page 55, ‘To bring cards to the top'." |
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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
Hi,
Usually, when David has something to tell me, he sends an email, I'm really surprised he didn't behave like so this time . Anyway. The technique he shows, I know it. But I don't use it because the discrepancies too visible (for me!): - When he adds 2 cards on top; - And above all, during the last "riffle". That said, he does it very well. Thanks for the videos! |
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snape Regular user 158 Posts |
Julie,
I've got the same question as splice. When is David's book on the Stevens Control coming out? Thanks. |
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