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Radmak Loyal user Aberdeen, UK 272 Posts |
Hey guys, here is a little something I would like to share with you:
Any feedback or questions would be very appreciated! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev0Yl67O2GI Cheers, R.
UK Close-up and cabaret magician based in Scotland - www.radekmakar.co.uk
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jerdunn Inner circle 1734 Posts |
Looks great to me. And it looks like you'll be selling it soon on lybrary.com
Do you know when? Cheers, Jerry |
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Radmak Loyal user Aberdeen, UK 272 Posts |
Hi Jerry, thanks for being the first person to reply!
It depends whether I will be selling just this one (actually two) tricks or a bunch of coin moves I was working on for past few months If you are interested in it please see the other promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev0Yl67O2GI Radek
UK Close-up and cabaret magician based in Scotland - www.radekmakar.co.uk
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mavericklancer Elite user Tustin, CA 448 Posts |
Color me interested as well. It looks very clean, but I worry about the angles on the production. About how much would the manuscript go for?
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Radmak Loyal user Aberdeen, UK 272 Posts |
Mavericklancer, to be honest, the angles are quite good. It depends a little on the flexibility of your fingers though. If you have a basic grasp of coin magic you should be fine The whole idea was to create a clean, very visual production that would look like the coin actually appears from an empty hand in a blink of an eye and which is easy to master.
Regarding the price - again it all depends on the amount of material I will publish. If it is just the production, vanish and the little flourish which suits the effect perfectly It should not be expensive! Just like any other effect published on lybrary.com Radek
UK Close-up and cabaret magician based in Scotland - www.radekmakar.co.uk
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Eric Jones V.I.P. Director of Product Development 2101 Posts |
Hmm......didn't know this was going to be on a DVD. I sent you a PM Radmak.....
“We're two tigers away from an act in Vegas.” Greg House M.D.
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Radmak Loyal user Aberdeen, UK 272 Posts |
It's not. Title on yt is a mistake:) it will be an ebook published on lybrary.com...
UK Close-up and cabaret magician based in Scotland - www.radekmakar.co.uk
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mdaniels New user Panamá 78 Posts |
When?
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Radmak Loyal user Aberdeen, UK 272 Posts |
Probably next week
UK Close-up and cabaret magician based in Scotland - www.radekmakar.co.uk
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Welcome to the Café...and good luck with the work Rad, looks really good.
It's the best use of this move that I've seen so far, not movey or suspicious but very clean and sharp looking. I like it! Good job and I can see why people are really looking forward to it...What's not to like?
*Check out my latest: Gifts From The Old Country: A Mini-Magic Book, MBs Mini-Lecture on Coin Magic, The MB Tanspo PLUS, MB's Morgan, Copper Silver INC, Double Trouble, FlySki, Crimp Change - REDUX!, and other fine magic at gumroad.com/mb217magic
"Believe in YOU, and you will see the greatest magic that ever was." -Mb |
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Radmak Loyal user Aberdeen, UK 272 Posts |
Thank you very much Mb!
I am looking forward to it as well and I hope everything goes nice and smoothly! Just to let you know guys, the final version includes the explanation of production, vanish, my "1/2 coin routine" and something I call "Third Time Lucky"
UK Close-up and cabaret magician based in Scotland - www.radekmakar.co.uk
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mindguru Veteran user 320 Posts |
It looks very clean and direct.
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Radmak Loyal user Aberdeen, UK 272 Posts |
Thank you
UK Close-up and cabaret magician based in Scotland - www.radekmakar.co.uk
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BenSalinas Special user Coinoscenti 746 Posts |
Looks great! I've been checking lybrary.com.
Your Friendly Neighborhood Coin Flinger
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KyleMacNeill Inner circle 2757 Posts |
Out now!¬
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
Is it not a quick abstract from Eric Jones last DVD presenting as a production what was described as a reproduction. Is this really original?
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Radmak Loyal user Aberdeen, UK 272 Posts |
I have never seen Eric's newest DVD (whichever it is:)) so I can not tell.
I know Eric was using a thumb to cover a coin. I also know his technique was all about handwashing movements which I do not like. I tried to create something quick and flashy and I think I did a good job. (And I created it long time ago) The thumb covering motion is nothing original and I saw it years ago in Europe. Because Eric published something of this kind recently I have included him in credits, as somebody who influenced my work a lot. I think it is a matter of paying a respect. E-book is not only about that one production of a coin. It is about production, vanish, my routine which includes those particular moves, a technique of tossing a coin in a heads and tails game, my version of Tenkai Pennies and my Spellbound Change. So it is much more than just a production. The Eni-Where Production and Vanish have been used to make a promo of the booklet and that's why they are the most recognizable ones. Regarding your last question. It is a variation of moves invented in the past. In my opinion we have only 10 fingers and 2 hands. At some point in time there will be no more places to hide a coin in. Thus, will nobody publish anything because the effect will not be 100% new and will use an abstract of somebody else's technique? There is plenty of books, dvd's and e-books on the market which describe the moves and techniques which are based on some other moves or are the combination of other moves. Hope I was able to address your concerns and say what I meant to say properly... For more information on the contents of e-book please visit this thread: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......rum=3&27 R.
UK Close-up and cabaret magician based in Scotland - www.radekmakar.co.uk
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Eric Jones V.I.P. Director of Product Development 2101 Posts |
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On 2011-03-14 20:02, Radmak wrote: Our conversations in private revealed to you PRIOR to your release that E-nigma is much more than a handwashing technique. I wish you wouldn't misrepresent the facts sir. As seen on An Extension of Me, I use the E-nigma move in the context of a handwashing clean up as well as a production. In private and prior to the release of your e-book, I explained that I had used this as a palm up production, vanish, shuttle pass, and as a spellbound move. I also explained my concerns with it's release since I had planned on putting out all the work on the E-nigma move in my new notes. Here's a link to one of the many moves I'd developed using it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO8D5M0DgbU You indicate that the technique is an old European technique. Unfortunately, my research has been mostly limited to magic created in North America. I'd love for you to share your credits to help set the record straight, as I've never come across this kind of thing before.
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Radmak Loyal user Aberdeen, UK 272 Posts |
My knowledge comes from old books, face to face meetings and conversations with my magic friends, not from the newest American publications and not from the Internet. I do not follow all new DVDs, which appear on the market. In my area magic secrets has been the knowledge available for selected ones only, passed from generation to generation, and nobody writes down who invented which move/routine, besides those classic ones.
I understand that Branding is Branding and you want to defend your E-nigma. If I called the application of Pinky in coin magic Pink-Ostr-Ophy I would not accuse anybody else of plagiarism because he published his work using Pinky in a different way. I am sure that somebody in some part of world was using a Pinky in coin magic before me. And I am very sorry but I can not provide any credits for the move. That's why I referred to your work and I was hoping you would appreciate it instead of starting an argument on public forum sir. PS. I never said it is an OLD EUROPEAN TECHNIQUE, and I do realize that by saying that I said that, you encourage magicians from for example France or other European countries to say, they have never seen anything like that before. I simply said that I know people who were using it few years ago and I am saying that I was using this technique few years ago, ergo I am not trying to steal your work. And that production of a coin is just a 1/7 of that e-book which presents routines I have been using, not all the variations on thumb use in magic. R.
UK Close-up and cabaret magician based in Scotland - www.radekmakar.co.uk
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
As you both may know, I have a library covering magic books, magazines and DVD including the oldest documents (even, for the linking rings, pre dating Scot) to the most recent ones and gathering more than 60'000 issues in French, German, English, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese and Dutch (the languages that I can read or understand). If it's a fact that it's impossible to know everything that is in there, I have extensively explored the cups and balls, coin tricks, card tricks, ring and string or stick, rubber bands, egg bag... The lists that I publish in the magic café demonstrate that I explore effects one by one trying to collect every information pertainng to the topic under study.
Without having been in contact with either of the parties on this matter, I bring testimony, for whatever it's worth, that during my forty years of study in books, VHS and DVDs and attending conventions in Europe, Asia and the US, I always had a deep curiosity about coins and know many unpublished secrets that have been entrusted to me by their creators from all over the world. I have however never seen or read or heard of the thumb concealing before Eric Jones included it in his DVD (where I also spotted the concept as having a very nice potential outside any hand washing). Actually I raised the question in the open in this thread even before the debate started between the two magicians. Now, even if Radmak is in good faith and despite the suspicious time proximity, he would not be the first one of us to have reinvented something independently. It happened to me when I reinvented Pete Biro's Karate move with an improved handling several years after he had publihed it: when I found out, I contacted Pete and the Karate move that he shows on his site is now including the handling that I had "invented" for what was and remains HIS move. Similarly the Vernon Tip Over Load for the Cups and Balls was published by Jean Caroly in 1902 and I wrote that Jean Caroly should be credited for the move. I could give many examples of the same fact with Ed Marlo for the Spider Grip Vanish or several card sleights... Published precedence is a very old rule in our community and Eric Jones has, to my knowledge (which is very extensive when it comes to coin sleights), precedence in the case under discussion. Thus Radmak should, in my opinion, give credit in writing to Eric Jones for the principle of the thumb concealment if he publishes his take on the move. He would honor himself and demonstrate his good faith by doing it.
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