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mmmario Regular user perth/shanghai 140 Posts |
Greetings all
I need to buy a few (possible 4) appearing canes (I'm thinking black) and I want quality. Something that will last and snap out fast each time. I've heard The Walsh canes are the best - work perfectly and last forever, but they're not being made anymore. Is this true? What else is there? Cheers. "It takes a verrry long time to become young." Pablo Picasso |
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Harrismatic Elite user Greece 434 Posts |
I do not know the type of canes you mention. The best ones I have found are these: http://www.seomagic-usa.com/catalog/prod......ts_id/70 .
They're are made from metal and as you can see on the video they expand instantly. They are quite expensive though. |
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mmmario Regular user perth/shanghai 140 Posts |
Thanks Harry.
Efharisto para poli. I'll check it out. :) |
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Harrismatic Elite user Greece 434 Posts |
You're very welcome, especially for the hellenic add.
btw, do you know to speak Greek or have you learned some phrases? |
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mmmario Regular user perth/shanghai 140 Posts |
My parents are Greek and I was born in Australia. My Greek is pretty rusty but still there. A week or two in Greece would fix that.
BTW, the canes on that link look great. Yes, they're expensive but if you want the best, you usually have to pay for that. If they're made to last, they're actually cheap in the long run. I'll save my drachmas. :O) Thanks again. |
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SpellbinderEntertainment Inner circle West Coast 3519 Posts |
As a very, very young magician a very elderly Russ Walsh (the inventor and original manufacturer) personally made a, appearing cane for me as a gift, he was a wonderful guy.
They were as said metal, they were not painted, they were colored with gun-bluing, making them so dark they appeared black, the bluing did not and could not come off or chip. The mechanism was made of stiff wire, and unlatched easier and faster than the lever types I’ve seen. They were very heavy, and tight spring steel, and had to be carefully folded and oiled once in a while. They were lighting fast and if you weren’t careful could knock a lamp over in a second. After Walsh’s death there were some made in Germany that were very close to his design. Russ also made black silks with a white corner that matched the cane and the change was very deceptive. I believe they should be black with a white tip and finial to appear as much as possible like a real cane, and should only be used in context, when it would be natural to have such a cane appear. To me the death of the appearing cane were the plastic versions, which were not nearly as fast, or as solid, then the colored ones that were less deceptive, and finally the stripped ones which gave the game away (what were they thinking) I also dislike the silver ones, they look like what they are, not a true gentleman’s cane. It’s worth searching out a Russ Walsh in the online or live magic auctions, or at least finding one of the German ones, I don’t know if they’re made any longer. Go with tradition and metal if you can. You are correct that it’s worth spending whatever it takes to get the very best quality. Magically, Walt |
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SpellbinderEntertainment Inner circle West Coast 3519 Posts |
Here is a link with a clear photo of a closed original Walsh:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ru......l-box-no |
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mmmario Regular user perth/shanghai 140 Posts |
Thanks muchly, Walt. Very interesting.
How blessed are you? A gift from the man himself ! I'll have a hunt around for one. And I totally agree with your views on the plastic versions. A travesty. I have seen an appearing cane with that bluing finish (methinks it was one of the German models) and it didn't seem quite black enough. Maybe in a very large theater but not from a shortish distance (and I'm not talking close-up). Well, that was my main thought at the time, anyway. I may be wrong. It has been documented that I have been wrong before. Mind you I only saw it once and never got a chance to play with it much. The cane Harry recommended ( by Mahka Tendo)is also metal and the black one (with a white tip) really looks the business - just like a gentleman's cane. I do wonder about the black paint though - whether it does chip or scratch easily. Are you still out there Harry? Have you had yours for a while? |
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SpellbinderEntertainment Inner circle West Coast 3519 Posts |
Hi, I have not seen that version but I understand from friends that the power coating will eventually fade or chip. Walt
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mmmario Regular user perth/shanghai 140 Posts |
Thanks for that, Walt. Makes a big difference. :O)
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Donal Chayce Inner circle 1770 Posts |
For those in SoCal who might be interested in acquiring a classic Russ Walsh Appearing Cane in excellent condition, I've donated one--packed in its original box and with the original instructions--to the Magic Castle for sale by the Board of Trustees at the upcoming swap meet on 4/16. Proceeds will benefit the Dai Vernon Fund.
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MagicalMotivator Veteran user 310 Posts |
Spellbinder
I have a very old cane to 2 bouquets of feather flowers - it was passed down from an elderly magician a long time ago - I believe it was originally sold by Tannen's - metal - and the white tip (wood) closely resembles the pic you posted (not like the later really thin tip sold) - it really took a long time to develop the "knack" for setting the cane with both bouquets - is it possible this was from Russ Walsh, or most likely a knock off? Out of interest... MM |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
The Russ Walsh metal Appearing Cane has a metal tube end with a glossy tape wrapped around the end.
The Vanishing Cane has a Ivory tip and large cap for the ends. If it is real Ivory I don't know, but it ages like real Ivory. No wood was used in the Walsh Canes, vanishing or appearing. The canes today are much better then the original Walsh Canes. They do not rust, and some have better material with excellent coating. Many todsy do not need to be oiled and cared for like the Walsh. The oil gets on your hands and spoils gloves if you wear them during performance. Walsh Canes were a great magic prop of its time, and he is owed a great thank you for bringing his props to the magic community. The Blue ones made by Tannen are excellent and work very well. I have a set of these as well. |
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IDOTRIX Elite user Darien,il 467 Posts |
Walt, I can remember as a kid saving up my money and going downtown chicago to Marshall Fields. They had a magic counter and I bought my first Walsh cane from Joe Zering. What a great guy and a great memory.
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brian314 Regular user Michigan 112 Posts |
I have a metal German made Walsh design cane I bought over 30 years ago. It has the heavy metal tip and is blued. You are not kidding if you were not careful you could knock someone out with it. I stopped using it a while ago, and to tell you how well its made, I had it coiled in its box for 15 years, when I took it out it opened like new. I now have it extended and oiled. Beautiful cane. If you can find one for sale buy it.
Brian |
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SpellbinderEntertainment Inner circle West Coast 3519 Posts |
Wow, I could hardly resist, but I did not need it.
At last night's magic club auction there was the German Cane (above) and he wanted only $25 for it in very good condition. In retrospect I should have just bought it and sold it for 5 times that. Walt |
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Sock Puppet Monkey Loyal user 235 Posts |
The best appearing cane is the one that doesn't get used...not a great trick in my book. Most people with average eye sight can see the lines on the cane. Ditto for disappearing canes.
SPM |
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mmmario Regular user perth/shanghai 140 Posts |
I tend to agree with you SPM, generally speaking. It always seemed too obvious to me. The painted black cane from Japan seems to make the spiral less obvious than others though - the photos look fantastic - which is why I'd love to hear from someone who has owned one of them for a while. My main concern is how resilient the paint job is. I'd hate to spend $140 on something that scratched and chipped easily. Also, rather than presenting it is a magic 'trick' ("look! this silk turns into a cane!" type of thing, I intend using it (well, about 4 or so) as more of a comedy vehicle for my character. He loses control of the magic.
Thanks for your inputs everyone. "It takes a verrry long time to become young." PABLO PICASSO |
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
I have used most canes that were made due to having a shop since 1974.
The first and nicest canes were the Walsh but the cane was thicker in comparison to some others that came out. There were some other German canes that started to come out and they were a thinner (when collapsed) cane. Some of the supply that came in had a plastic ferrule rather than metal, which effected the balance and weight. One of the lightest canes came out in the 80's from Tricks of Japan. Very thin metal and a spring loaded one hand release (probably the forerunner of the Seo magic version. The Japanese cane needed silcon spray for lubrication and it didn't rust, whereas most of the German and Walsh canes could rust if not treated with (a gun oil). India started to make some canes and the canes started to go downhill in quality. Rusting, sticking and wobbling when produced. Some were just too long. Recently the India cane had a stainless steel cane in Black or silver and that pretty much ended the need for lubrication. Some dealers sell an ultimate cane, but I've never handled that. Here is a great use of a cane in a routine. The lines on the cane have never been a problem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjqkNItGR3E flagtastick with silver stainless http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD1RnkICvQY
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
East Coast Magic is making some very good cane also. Tell John I sent you,
Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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