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Pete Biro
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We are considering a run of the classic shape Johnny Paul cups. However the cost of brass and copper has skyrocketed. (Must have gold in it.)
So we are considering a high-quality aluminum alloy.

Thoughts please.
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With so many replicas out there will your be closer to the originals?
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Love mine. I'm sure they would be great whatever you use.
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Ahh sorry Pete. I understand now. I was thinking Paul Fox in my head. I absolutely LOVE my brass ones. I would love them in a different material though.
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I'd certainly be interested in a set! Smile
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I would be interested too.
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Pete, You could count me in. The brass Cups are a great set and I am sure aluminum would be too. I have some old aluminum Birelli Cups that work pretty close to the JP set. And the originals were aluminum too were they not?
I think that it would be cool to even have them as another set of Traditional Cups, there are so few out there these days.

Good luck with the project!

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You have our support, Pete.

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What did I tell you, Pete?
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I forget... what did you tell me? hahahh.... Smile Smile Smile
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Count me in! Love the brass set.
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Aluminum? No.
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Bummer...I'd go for brass. I'm not as much into aluminum. I should have picked up a set when they were available! I was never too crazy about the appearance to be honest...until Pete showed me what was possible with sponge balls and these cups. Some very deceptive and unique moves.
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Zoob... I have some really good brass spray paint Smile
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In that case put me down for a dozen sets.
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Johnny Paul's cups on the greater magic teach-in DVD look chrome. Are they plated brass?
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Johnny Paul's original cups were aluminum alloy. When I produced them I had them spun out of brass. Not plated brass. A very few sets were nickel plated. The cups used in the printed instructions were brass.

"IF" we produce a new run, we will use an aluminum alloy as the price of brass and especially copper has skyrocketed.

We'd probably have to double the price of sets. NOTE: Dean Dill has found that these cups work perfectly to rig for David Regal's Cups & Balls and Cups & Balls routine.
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Thanks, Pete
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I am very fond of my beginner's level aluminum cups, and they seem to work very well for me. Even when I first used them in front of my ring, some of what I do with the cups alone was said to be my best work. (Not that it would have been difficult.)

If these are the style I think they are, I would love a set shaped like that as well.

Of course, there's always a glitch. I'm broke. That's a rant for elsewhere. If I can find a job working for real human beings before you get your cups produced then they would be a perfect second set.
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See attached image for a photo of the Johnny Paul cups.

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Hey Pete,

For some reason, I was thinking that Kaps used JP cups for his routine with sponges. However, the video off your site doesn't show that. Did he use the Paul style at some point, or do I have someone else in my mind?

Thanks
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Kaps didn't use the JP'S they are not big enough for some of his moves. I think his were made in Europe.
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Yes, those were exactly the ones I was thinking of. I loved seeing the similar shape in the Tin Cups Revival thread.

Maybe it's time to perform some spring cleaning and start selling old/unused items.
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Weren't the origionals made of Foolium?
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Yes Foolium was a special alloy consisting of cheap aluminum. Smile

Posted: Mar 31, 2011 5:43pm
DRAT... can't get the price down due to material costs... will work on other sources.
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I'm in for a set , please put me on the list .
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The cups Johnny Paul used on the Greater Magic Library video were made of aluminum and were ordinary tapered cups that were sold by some magic company in Chicago, probably not Ireland's or Magic, Inc. I have those cups.
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Pete,

Thank you for looking into making these available again. I would also be interested in buying a set.
-Nate
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On 2011-04-01 00:13, Bill Palmer wrote:
The cups Johnny Paul used on the Greater Magic Library video were made of aluminum and were ordinary tapered cups that were sold by some magic company in Chicago, probably not Ireland's or Magic, Inc. I have those cups.


I knew the late Arthur Day very well, and Arthur was a good friend of Johnny. Arthur told me that Johnny's cups were from Petrie-Lewis.

Off topic a little now (sorry) but may be of interest...Johnny was visting with Arthur and they went to a social club near Arthur's home. The club was crowded, and there should have been a singer, but for some reason she hadn't arrived. Arthur mentioned to the organising people that his guest (Johnny) was a magician from the US and was well known. Of course, Johnny performed and killed them. In Arthur's words "they wouldn't let him go". Smile

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Actually, Johnny Paul's cups, that is, the set he used on the Greater Magic Video Library session, were not Petrie-Lewis cups. They were much cheaper than that. Jim Ryan used the same kind of cups. The set I have were part of the John Fisher collection. John got them from Johnny's widow. I got them at auction, along with lots of documentation, including the video where they were used.

If you are familiar with P&L cups, the differences are many and obvious.
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