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jskalon Special user Shorewood, IL. 869 Posts |
HMMM. AGAIN another one of my replies (a reply I made to a post) has mysteriously disappeared. Amazing! It must be magic. Funny the last time this happened was when I posted a reply to the same person.
It must be nice to have that POWER!
Jack Skalon
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
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On 2011-07-05 21:43, jimhlou wrote: Yes, but her posts in the dove section, Polly Wants a Cracker, of the Café, suggested she would be around to share some ideas and sell some her illusions. |
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jskalon Special user Shorewood, IL. 869 Posts |
Thanks Jim.
I was just curious because I love Torn and Restored Newspaper effects and would like to start collecting the different versions.
Jack Skalon
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Mike Maturen Inner circle Michigan's Beautiful Sunrise Side 2726 Posts |
I just found out that Gene Anderson is a member of the IBM Ring that is closest to my house. I live two hours away, which is why I am not a member of that local ring. I had always known that there was a Gene Anderson that was a member there (I was a guest a few times when I was a teen)...but I never put the two together.
I am going to try to make the July meeting to discuss this discussion with him. Should be fascinating!
Mike Maturen
World of Wonder Entertainment The Magic and Mayhem of Mike Maturen 989-335-1661 mikematuren@gmail.com AUTHOR OF "A NEW DAWN--Weekly Wisdom From Everyday Life" member: International Magician's Society |
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
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On 2011-07-06 22:12, Mike Maturen wrote: Wait, Gene Anderson - In Michigan? What city? If you would rather not publically post and would not mind, PM me the info please! |
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Mike Maturen Inner circle Michigan's Beautiful Sunrise Side 2726 Posts |
Gene is in the Bay City area.
Mike Maturen
World of Wonder Entertainment The Magic and Mayhem of Mike Maturen 989-335-1661 mikematuren@gmail.com AUTHOR OF "A NEW DAWN--Weekly Wisdom From Everyday Life" member: International Magician's Society |
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magicgeorge Inner circle Belfast 4299 Posts |
I too am considering doing this effect and from the videos I have seen online I do like the look of Axel Hecklau's version.
How long is the set up time on it? Also, I've never seen anyone do a really funny version of this trick. Apart from doing a few headline gags most routines I have seen are pretty dry. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
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On 2011-07-08 10:37, magicgeorge wrote: Hecklau version 2.0 gives several methods for set up, one he says only takes 2 seconds. Anderson's takes 10 minutes if you know what you are doing. Your are absolutely correct, I have not seen any comedy presentations of the torn and restored newspaper. I wonder why the audience always laughs at the tearing and restoration of the trick anyway. Could it be the actual trick in itself? Maybe you should come up with a comedy presentation for this trick, it would be unique if you are performing for magicians. |
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Mike Maturen Inner circle Michigan's Beautiful Sunrise Side 2726 Posts |
I might have to look into this variation as well. I have also heard good things about Baxt's version.
Mike Maturen
World of Wonder Entertainment The Magic and Mayhem of Mike Maturen 989-335-1661 mikematuren@gmail.com AUTHOR OF "A NEW DAWN--Weekly Wisdom From Everyday Life" member: International Magician's Society |
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magicgeorge Inner circle Belfast 4299 Posts |
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On 2011-07-08 12:18, wmhegbli wrote: Just after I posted that remark I looked in the next thread along and there was Geoffrey Durham posting. I'd forgotten about his presentation which was (& still is I presume!) pretty amusing and darned entertaining. It was just a variation on the classic patter I believe. I suppose it's just a good effect and has little room for variation or too much comedy. Maybe it's best left as just the kind of effect that is short and sweet with a couple of gags. I can't come up with much funny about it. Newspapers are in the news at the moment what with the news of the world and daily star debarcle. I think you'd probably get a good response from just ripping up a news of the world and leaving it at that at the moment... |
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Mattia Regular user 128 Posts |
Dear friends,
I haven't tried Axel Hecklau's Newsflash 2.0, but I think that there are a few things to consider before buying the first one. When performed well,it's very impressive and looks very natural: also the handling of the newspaper when restored is absolutely perfect and natural. Nevertheless, there are other things quite uncomfortable:for example it takes A LOT of time to set up. I usually set up other versions in about 2 min. Newsflash takes me at least 15 minutes. Also, it's not so easy to perform:a little mistake in preparation or tearing and...well,You know what happens. In my opinion, regardless to these "cons", it's one of the best versions:audience likes it, it doesn't matter if it's hard to perform. Regarding the presentation,I use it only with a music background. I like very much Harbin's presentation(You can find it on Youtube). And yes,I agree: it's rare to see a magician performing well this trick. Maybe tell a story to explain why You are tearing the newspaper(watch Harbin). About people laughing at the tearing, I don't know why,but it never happened to me. I think that every audience has a different reaction at the same trick. Maybe people with different sense of humor react differently at the same thing(thing that,in fact it's not funny). These are only the ideas I had reading this topic, let me know if You agree. Magically Yours, Mattia |
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TommyJ Inner circle Foxboro, MA 1750 Posts |
I fell in love with Ron Wilson's Slow Motion Paper Tear years ago and I have used it ever since. As I understand it, his version is a version of the Elmsley paper tear. I love the ease of handling and the very fast and convenient 30 second re-set.
A lot can be said for flash restorations. They are amazing to watch. But I love the look of the slow motion paper tear as it appear the paper simply "melts" back together and it appears that you are left so clean at the end. I added a clip below. I incorporated a little of Ron's patter. (RIP Ron and thanks for the contribution to Magic. You will be missed. ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fB_1yrohKs
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Very entertaining Tommy J., I like it!
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Ony Carcamo Special user Manila, PHILIPPINES 608 Posts |
Nice, Tommy.
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5445 Posts |
You are right. There is much to be said for the slow restoration of the newspaper. It is argueable which (flash or slow restoration) gets the greater reaction. I suspect that it is like everything else in magic that the audeince reaction depends more on the presentation and performer than the trick.
Nice work Tommy! I really enjoyed watching your handling of this.
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TommyJ Inner circle Foxboro, MA 1750 Posts |
Thanks guys. Glad to share it. I close most of my shows with this tear.
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Brian Tanner Loyal user Ohio 297 Posts |
Very nicely done, Tommy! I really enjoyed this.
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JNeal Inner circle I used to have 999 posts, now I have 1623 Posts |
Not to hijack the thread or anything, but I've never figured out what (if any) is the difference between Ron Wilson's Version and the original Elmsley.
I have the printed instructions for both (Elmsley's method was sold by Magic Inc for ...$2.00!) and it beats me! Still, it is my favorite method and has tremendous impact on an audience if the presentation is good. Regards- JNeal
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charliecheckers Inner circle 1969 Posts |
Hecklau's version is my personal favorite. Despite what others have written, it is easy to reset once you commit to learning it. Alex goes into extreme detail. There is only one tear that is against the newspaper natural grain and needs practice to tear properly. A previous post suggested it can be a challenge to get the restoration right but I have no idea what they are talking about. The other newspaper restoration I like is Anderson"s, which has a similar effect but a less natural position of the newspaper at the end. I am glad others convince themselves that the slow restorations are so wonderful because it makes my audiences so excited to see the flash restorations that I use.
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TommyJ Inner circle Foxboro, MA 1750 Posts |
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On 2011-07-10 11:50, charliecheckers wrote: Its not that we convince ourselves that they are so wonderful . . . they ARE wonderful. So are flash restorations. I used to perform Anderson's. I also have Axel's. They are both great, but time consuming in between shows to re-set, whereas the slow motion paper tear is extremely fast and simple to reset. Since I have used both I can attest that audiences like both. My response to the first post is: I prefer the Slow Motion paper Tear. Why don't you give it a try Charlie
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