Don't judge a book by it's cover . . . ;-)

Hey guys,
Jay and others say that you will need to make an adjustment at home for this. Is this something I can do while aways and not able to attain items easily. For example, if I needed some Super Glue (not for this of course!), I can't go to the local ACE store and pick it up. I would have to order it and wait weeks...

I tried e-mailing Jay, but didn't get a response back. Our e-mail sometimes gets screwy. I am sure they didn't see it, or something.

I just thought I would ask on here as well.

As far as a lot of people not liking the idea of this, it is their right to not like it. For me; I have no issues with Jay bringing to the present effects from the past. And for Roy to assist in this says it is of good quality. Yes, I know it is a paperclip so please don't remind me.

How many "Sponge Balls" Dvd's, packages have come out since their "invention"?
How many silk changing routines, devices, ect.?

I just ordered Tarbell 1-3. I bet I will find some stuff in there that has been sold as something "new" recently. I am excited to see what gems I can find in these.

Anyone want to buy my new invention: "The Phantom of the Card". You will change a white backed card to a deep blue color backed card with empty hands.
I am joking.. My dry sense of humor, stinks.

Bottom-line: Jay has done a TON for magic. Some hate him, some love him. But you have to agree that he is a huge part of magic today and IMHO has helped keep the "Magic" going.

For those that don't like all the hype and have been "burned", I fully respect you and understand if you don't buy his products anymore. Your right to buy what YOU want.

Yes, I know I can (and will) e-mail him again.

Please PM me if you want.

Thanks for reading my long and non-focused post.

Anyone want to buy my "Phantoom of the Card" for $40?
BTW: Phantom of the Card is not to be confused with "Phantom of the Wallet"!

Mike

Slyder is a great item if you use your imagination. Here's a effect I do with it, heck it might even be in the routines booklet but to be honest I didn't read a lot of them as I had my own ideas for what I wanted to do with it.
Anyways here's a idea Ive been working with for a group of people.

I show the spectators a strip of paper with a paperclip on it and explain that there is list on the my side of the paper, but right Im not going to show them it as someone here going to make a prediction and don't want them to think Ive influence them. I choose a spec and tell them Im going to use the paper clip as a marker as I move down and please say stop.... maybe when you feel something.... or you just think its time to stop.

They do..I ask are you sure you can move on if you wish. They say yes or no. I tell them to hold there hand out flat and we'll leave there prediction face down on there hand for right now. I ask if anyone has a loonie (in canada we have a one dollar coin called a loonie). I put specs 2 coin in my hand and say I want everyone here to get a good look come close, the date on this coin this coin is 1972.... I slowly look at the strip of paper on the spec hand and turn it over and show everyone out of a list starting from the 1950's till now they predicted the date on the coin! 1972!

Now I did have one guy ask well what if the coin was made before 1950's and I told him the honest truth the chances of some one carrying a coin in there pocket from before the 1950's is very rare.

Im not sure from my description but this doesn't take as much time as it sound it actually has a really nice flow and amount of time at least with how I present it.

Anyways now think of what just happened here. The spectators have did all the magic.... in there minds. that's what I love about something like this.
The first spectator said stop 100% on there own. Another spectator gave me a coin of there own. Even with all that the spectators prediction of the date was right!

Since I received mine Ive been doing this routine solid and it been getting amazing reactions.... People every time have been speechless..they just cant believe what happened.

Jay has given us a rare opportunity to just let the magic happen. If you use your imagination with device and stop your own thoughts from limiting you...this will be something you always carry with you!

You know it funny how you don't notice things till you right them down. Now even though no ones called me on it. Loonie was even made in the 50's hahahaha so Ive change this to asking a spectator for a quarter. But as I said no one has ever called me on it and Ive been doing it alot, I rather use a quarter because of this.

What I love about Jay's work: he's made a lot of great things! Paperclipped, Insider, Extremely Mental, etc.
What I hate about Jay's work: the hype! I was following him on Twitter and Facebook so I could get all the informations about new releases, but
in EVERY single post he would use CAPS LOCK, which was irritating me so I unfollowed him. It's okay to use it the first time you advertise something, but always?
This brought me to the conclusion that Jay has probably taken NLP classes in order to sell his products better. I don't blame him, but if you don't have anything good to sell, then don't market it.
However I respect Jay cause I can't forget all the great things he has made and BABOM was a great offer, if I had money and opportunity I would've gotten myself one.

I just recently got this and must say this is one item that lives up to the hype. I knew what it was, but it really is awesome. You really cannot see the gimmick and it is made very nice.

Steve

I probably won't be buying Slyder as I have so many things to amaze with which is what it all comes down to, just another prop and/or gimmick to do another piece of amazement. But I feel even $40 isn't a bad deal at all for a well made item that can guarantee success and all us magicians hate being laughed at because of a mess up. We've all been there at one time or another and know the pain. I like Jay and think he's a total hyper-head that would make a great salesman on an infomercial but really has a creative side to magic performance that goes way outside the box. For a mentalist, Slyder could be a great prop to have, in my opinion.

What a great way to pull off a random number generated, for acaan. This may be old but it seems the gimic is improved to make the effect worth looking at. Sankey usaly has good ideas with very effect.

See my use for this down below

MichalMystic, that's a nice routine you came up with using the borrowed coin. A couple of different layers of deception going on there. Almost makes me want to order one of these Slyder gimmicks someday.

I think it's funny that people are bashing Jay before owning this and saying its "just a paper clip" yet will spend hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars on 3 cups.

I agree. It's a pretty interesting thing, and somewhat disappointing, to see all this bashing page after page. Perhaps people are buying other ideas and not just an improvement on a gimmick... You obviously get a DVD and some extras. For Gods sake, how many freaking DVDs and books discuss a deck of cards? You do not hear people complaining, "Oh, it just uses a deck of cards." "The first deck of cards was printed in… it's not new." I see very little respect being thrown around and quite frankly this is why numerous creative people stop coming here. If this product or Jay is not for you, what's accomplished by discouraging those who might not have had the experience or familiarity of similar effects? Some of the comments and direction verge on bullying and smearing Jay and each other… and it appears as if several have been removed. I don't get it. I happen to be on Jay's site to mention a glitch in an idea and saw this product which led me here. I had interest in the paper clip as I dabble in mentalism and even the tinniest improvement on something like this is worth it at times. Then I read pages and pages of garbage... and am now feeling somewhat obligated to add more. Sorry about that... but it's like seeing someone talk on the cell phone in a movie and ignoring it. Something just seems wrong about it. Jay appears to be creative as they come. I wish we had more like him around.

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Ixnay66, Rich Ferguson, well said!

I don't have this, but have other Sankey material and enjoy and use it. He did a great Penguin Live lecture recently.

Rich, thanks for counter balancing some of the meanness.

Jay is selling this now for $14.95 and I think I will get it. Despite all the negative posts here it seems that everyone that actually bought it is happy if not very happy with it. With the reduction in price I think it is worth a try. Plus I have been very happy with many other Sankey products in the past.

Is the slyder on a dvd explanation, Should I buy it, I am just putting some close up work together,

"SLYDER comes complete with TWO of the specially-machined, custom-design paperclips + 45 minute tutorial video."

You'll get a link to a private YouTube video, not a DVD.

Jay has done a great job with his recent YouTube videos, such as Holy Moly, Grand Opening and many others.

If you don't want to have to be on-line to watch the videos, there are many ways to download the video.


Dave

Hi. The Slyder is no longer in the Sankey's website from weeks... Do somebody know can I order it from somewhere?

Dennys Magic

http://dennymagic.com/store/slyder-by-sa......ick.html

Thanks!

Sankey himself has some more of these back in stock now.