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gmeister Inner circle 1588 Posts |
Sad, dismaying and, oh, so avoidable.
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JohnWells Inner circle The Southern Wild 1791 Posts |
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On 2011-09-16 22:37, blackpine0008 wrote: No. This was not a "mistake". This was an informed and calculated decision to profit from an idea that was not his to sell. The Bite was, I believe, a genuine recreation which, when identified as such, was acknowledged thusly in the text. This, whether or not he hit upon the painfully obvious idea on his own, whether or not his (unnecessary) mode of preparation was "original", whether or not the (suspicious in my opinion) folding up of the envelope is a sufficient "improvement", may not be considered such a case. He knew, and he, and we, know he knew, that this was not new. Try saying that five times fast. It is interesting that the "pros", according to Mr. Pragers own word (and I do not put myself in that list), generally share my rather inimical feelings about this. The presumed non pros who got gyped just love it. Good for Mr. Prager. |
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
With your post John, I feel he might have made an improvement.
Several improvements really. However my post is one that offered from the tower of ignorance. If nothing else this thread has caused me to create a presentation that I hope is not like the one offered. Even as this is being typed the demonstration plays in my mind. This could be quite powerful with the right stuff. Not saying this is, only offering a thank you for the inspiration. Jim H.o.A-X
“I can make Satan’s devils dance like fine gentlemen across the stage of reality”.
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JohnWells Inner circle The Southern Wild 1791 Posts |
I'm not sure I follow, but you're welcome...(?)
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magicman29 Inner circle hertfordshire 1245 Posts |
Imho I think it's crap! I purchased it on friday and sat down today to gimmick the envelope and by the time I got some bit of a peek I went to far and had to make a new one and again same thing happened! I'm after going through 4 envelopes already and am having same problem......
save your money guys! Kieran |
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Aaron E Special user 756 Posts |
I bought this too. Honestly, the envelopes I buy from office depot, I can see through when I use a sharpie on a biz card already! I have a problem with making my envelopes opaque!
Anyway, I am with Iain, I would like a refund too... |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Those of you who have access to inner thoughts might like to check out the following thread from July of this year. In it I discuss the envelopes used in White Dwarf. Note that Mr. Prager took part in the thread.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......um=82&17 Good thoughts, Bob |
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blackpine0008 Regular user 126 Posts |
Sad, really sad
"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not believe, no explanation will suffice." Joseph Dunninger
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
I thought the PDF was well written.
But then again what do I know? Jim
“I can make Satan’s devils dance like fine gentlemen across the stage of reality”.
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Sir. Mind Reader New user 66 Posts |
Seems like some of the people praising this effect together just take it in turns releasing cheap ebooks. They always seem to rave about each others work and post "questions" etc. A bit tiresome, and as mentioned above - it would be much better if this work was held back, properly routined and eventually put into a proper book.
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magicman29 Inner circle hertfordshire 1245 Posts |
Anybody Got his mindveil? Is it as good as it's supposed to be?
Kieran |
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JohnWells Inner circle The Southern Wild 1791 Posts |
Jim,
Despite the harshness of my invective (overkill perhaps?), I will certainly agree that the ebook is very well produced, well written, and the embedded video is an added value. Had this been a "new, original, idea", it would have been more than worth the price. I will even go so far as to say that the mindshocks ebooks are a positive influence in the field, especially in terms of production values. No, that doesn't mean I like this product, and no, it doesn't lessen my, what's the word, frustration with the laxity of vetting and crediting, but I was remiss in ignoring the value that is there in this product. |
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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
Does anyone have a reference for the original publication that uses this method of preparation. I like the ungimmicked method and this sounds interesting but I'm obviously loathe to buy it now. PM me if you'd prefer.
thanks Sean |
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Paul Shirley Inner circle Melbourne, Australia 1206 Posts |
I noticed it mentioned before on this thread but... is the method in any way similar to John Riggs's envelope p**k in his Gods with feet of clay DVD's? Cause THAT is KILLER!!!
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PsiDroid Inner circle 2164 Posts |
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On 2011-09-18 21:46, Jim-Callahan wrote: Well you know how to stir the pot |
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
I personally do not like the talk of methodology in this thread.
Also not being a person to place things into an envelope unless it is to be sent somewere the method of gaff was not familiar to me. Jim H.O.A-X
“I can make Satan’s devils dance like fine gentlemen across the stage of reality”.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Jim - are we playing "the sky is green" game?
you little devil you...
I've asked to be banned
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