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jonnyboy Inner circle San Diego 1021 Posts |
Craig, do you ever hear any complaints from working pros that your products make mentalism TOO easy for hobbyists and amateurs? Of course, I am talking about method, and not entertainment. Your products allow people who have never studied the works of Corinda, Cassidy, Annemann, etc. to perform seeming miracles. (And again, not just you, but other top quality e-magic creators). To me, this would not be a legitimate complaint, since many performers publish routines and methods and/or put out products themselves. Just wondering...
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craig filicetti V.I.P. Arizona 550 Posts |
Hi John,
Yes, actually I have been told this a few times. "It has leveled the playing field" is one quote. It does concern some people and they feel that much less experienced performers can easily go and obtain a miracle. The thinking is that with other methods require additional practice and understanding to pull off such miracles. These are ready to go out of the box. I think it is important that we take our art seriously and don't be out performing when you are not ready. -Craig
ProMystic - Professional Systems For Mentalists
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theinternetguru Elite user I hacked the Café but I still only have 426 Posts |
There are, and will always be, effects that require very little technique. These are to the benefit of the working professional, as they permit him or her to focus on the performance. The fact is that most effects in the field of mentalism are not very difficult to perform. What Craig provides are tools that empower people who know what they are doing. Those who perform without practice, study, training and a love for the art are going to fall flat. Not even Craig can save them.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2011-12-30 11:22, theinternetguru wrote: I would rephrase that to say, "Most effects in the field of mentalism are not very difficult to execute." (using "execute" in BOTH senses of the word) As far as entertainment goes, there is no such thing as a "self working" effect. Craig's creations are valuable tools for those who know how to use them and who understand how to subtly disconnect the notion that electronics could possibly be involved. Good thoughts, Bob |
mag1cman Regular user Has contributed a meagre 142 Posts |
Hi All
As somebody who is relatively new to Magic and Mentalism (having been a student of the former for for about 5 years and the latter for about 2) what I believe Craig offers aren't 'end effects'. Yes he offers routines to illustrate the uses of what he has on sale but if you only mindlessly perform these and never try and expand on them, then you are missing out on something great. What I believe Craig and others like him offer are Toolkits of Opportunity (remember you heard it here first) which are there for you to sit down with and think about, to play with and to explore options and potential. Give two blocks of wood to two people, one a master craftsman and one a buddying hobbyist and you will soon enough see the different results that they produce and the effect that their work has on the people that come into contact with it! Like most things in this world it all comes down to effort, and not just on the part of the performer.If 200 people have had a brilliant time at a performance because a master of their trade has given them that time then I believe that maybe one or two will go home and clumsily Google their way to finding potential answers to the miracles that they observed (and incidentally I believe that they will only end up more amazed and bewildered by the HUGE amount of choice that they will learn that the Mentalist entertaining them had in selecting the method that they executed that evening). The rest of the audience will simply go home satisfied at having had an amazing experience (and a few will definitely avoid getting educated as they will want to remain blissful in their ignorance of the execution of their amazement). Now lets say that the same tools are used by a less able performer, they may even be a poor performer and expose method as a result of their bumbling delivery! For a start the entertainment factor will be much lower and the effect on the audience much less. There may still be one or two who go and look up what they saw, and at that point they will still learn something and maybe even get an appreciation for the challenge that the performer had. The vast majority will just chalk it up to a rubbish night out and think no more about it (in fact you could argue that they are less likely to talk about it with others that they meet thus limiting the exposure). Both sets of people will have somewhat faltering memories of what they saw (we all understand timing and misdirection) so it would be AMAZING for anybody to remember in exact sequence everything that either the Master Mentalist or the Bluffing Buffoon did in their shows and this goes further to limiting exposure also. I'll close by asking a question (if I get a reply will determine whether anyone got this far or if I put you all to sleep by now!) Derren Brown has probably entertained several hundred thousand people in his live shows on stage in the UK by now. Has anyone EVER heard someone in the audience say "Oh that's a XXX technique or tool he's using. I know because I saw a rubbish mentalist using the same XXX at a pub gig a few months ago?" I'd hazard a guess at the answer being no and mostly because two people can use the same tool and deliver remarkably (even startlingly) different results and get shockingly different reactions from them! I say keep 'em coming Craig anyone who thinks that technology will stop and everything will go 'back to normal' needs to seriously re-evaluate if it is the technology that is the enemy or their own ability to create the level of entertainment that an audience can feed off. Steve H-B
*** Magic shouldn't be the only thing in your life BUT everything in your life should be magic! ***
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craig filicetti V.I.P. Arizona 550 Posts |
More on the way!
I will point out that in an attempt go further and bring more to the table that just the tools I do try to bring you the best routines. If you look at the next ProMystic release, the eWallet, you will see routines from eWallet routines from: -John Archer -David Berglas -Richard Bloch -Angelo Carbone -David Klass -Peter Nardi -M Weber Now, I can't necessarily make you entertaining, but you will have tools and routines to work from. Best, -Craig
ProMystic - Professional Systems For Mentalists
<BR>www.promystic.com |
bdekolta Inner circle Texas 1636 Posts |
Bob - makes me think of Henry Hay's "Hard Easy Tricks and Easy Hard Tricks".
Craig - the most difficult task with your products is creating an effect that transcends the method. ~ Dan |
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