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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
When I seen Tim Wright do his back spin bounce and catch at Abbott's, it was so surprising and added humor that the sound was never thought of at all. Over thinking these things is ridiculous to say the least. I believe at that time Tim was using Fakini Golf Balls.
Dropping a sensational moment in an act is a mistake, sound or not. Magic is not logical and if a magician did not want sound he could cancel it out with his magic powers. |
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Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
I don't think I would say that bouncing a ball qualifies as "a sensational moment." Just my opinion. But to each his own. If there really was magic in the world, I would imagine that it would have its own set of laws, rules and logic which even magicians would have to obey. That's why in the story of "Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves," only one specific magic phrase--"Open Sesame"--would open the secret cave. "Open Barley" and "Open Rye" would not work, although Ali Baba's brother Cassim tried those words and many more without success. In the story of Aladdin, Aladdin discovered that the genii of the ring had no power to undo magic done by the genii of the lamp. As Bob Sheets would say: "It's the rules." Even Moses had to follow certain rules to accomplish his miracles. Because he broke the rules, God forbade Moses to ever enter the Promised Land.
I think one of the most inviolable rules of magic is that--if granted three wishes--you can't make the last wish "I wish to have three more wishes." ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
WOW! That is a lot of crap.
------------------------------------------- I guess you would have had to be there and experience the moment. |
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
Getting back to the topic, Bill, these balls are only available in red? I wish I could get them in white. Another very interesting thing is the sh**l you described as having a very thin edge to it, like a wooden one. That is one thing about Fakini's--the shell has a decernable edge.
Jim
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Jim, I inquired about other colors and sizes, they are not available.
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Daveandrews Special user London, UK 723 Posts |
Bill, many thanks for the 'heads up' on this. I have sent for a set, mainly because my red Fakinis come over as pink (maybe it's a man thing - lol).
My white Fakinis are ok, so I'll be happy with just a red set. Dave
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Yeah, Bill! Thank you from me as well!
Interesting topic. I used to bounce my Ireland's as well, until a fellow magi informed of why it is not a good idea, and I see it rings here as well. Besides, it wears the paint off anyway. Doug |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Well, I did it again. I found a dealer on Ebay that is selling a set of 1-3/4" size of these soft rubber Billiard Balls. For some reason these are a little more expensive with this Hong Kong dealer.
I have to compare the handling of the smaller size with the 2" size. Free shipping, but really the shipping is in the price, and a large profit margin compared to the other dealers on Ebay. Now I have to decide on a killer routine! * Shamada * Chavez * Lewis Ganson * Frank Garcia * Alan Wakeling * Geoffrey Buckingham * Walter E. Cummings * Ade Duval * Ron MacMillan * Laurie Ireland or a mix of all of them. Posted: Feb 15, 2012 3:59pm I received the smaller ball set today, just to complete this and inform everyone. The small set is only 1.5" NOT 1.75". The shell does not match the ball like the 2" set. The shell does not fit as well as the 2" set, it is very loose fitting. The smaller set's shell is very shiny and thicker plastic then the 2" set. The balls are the same semi glean balls as the larger 2" set. Very disappointed in this small set of balls. Double the price and double disappointed. Not recommended, don't waste your money! They did come in only 15 days from Hong Kong, through San Francisco. Posted: Feb 16, 2012 5:30am I tried my idea of painting the large 2" inside of the shells black, that is not correct, it make the shell darker then the balls. I will get some red paint and try that next. Just ordered 3 more sets of the 2" balls. These are so easy to handle, anyone should have no problem with them. When I opened the package when it arrived I smelled something familiar. It finally came to me, it was the faint smell of a rubber ball I experienced as a child. These may be made out of a rubber product. I think these balls are the closest thing I have handled that are similar to the old Ireland golf balls. |
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JamesRaymond New user Elkhart, IN (USA) 49 Posts |
Sorry to hear that the smaller size was disappointing to say the least. but I see you like the 2". I have not tried these myself so I can not input on them but I do love my Fakini 1 3/4 balls.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I am one of the few that do not care for the Fakini, they have to many drawbacks for me and what I am trying to accomplish.
I did just order the JL Mirage Multiplying Billiard Balls to see if they will work for some new material I am learning. If anyone cares I will express my thoughts on them when they arrive by the end of the week hopefully. |
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JamesRaymond New user Elkhart, IN (USA) 49 Posts |
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On 2012-02-16 17:06, wmhegbli wrote: I would like to hear what you have to say. I was looking at them myself before I just went with the Fakini.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
OK, Bill!
I did it! Ordered a set of these for myself! Thanks man! I would never have ordered magic from eBay again after the last fiasco with rip-offs. Your posts convinced me! Doug |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
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On 2012-02-17 13:15, Dougini wrote: I just sent for a 5th set myself. If you had any problem with Billiard Balls in the past, then these may be what you are looking for. I could never do finger rolls, and it is very easy with these soft balls. I am still working on what to paint the inside of the gimmick to stop sunlight from changing the look of it when aside the balls. No big problem, I just want to be covered, just in case. |
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JamesRaymond New user Elkhart, IN (USA) 49 Posts |
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I just sent for a 5th set myself. If you had any problem with Billiard Balls in the past, then these may be what you are looking for. I could never do finger rolls, and it is very easy with these soft balls. I am still working on what to paint the inside of the gimmick to stop sunlight from changing the look of it when aside the balls. No big problem, I just want to be covered, just in case. [/quote] I did notice the slight color change you speak of in the photo from the link you gave. Hope you find a solution to you problem.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Let me state up front, even though the JL Mirage Billiard Balls have been on the market for over a year, I have not read a review of them as of yet that is definitive in nature. They only come in one size 1.7 inch. This size seems to work well for me. That is a little less then 1-3/4", the shell is 1.85" which is about 1-7/8" across.
I ordered the Yellow set from Penguin Magic because they were priced at $75 for a set of 3 balls and 1 shell, free shipping and no sales tax. I then ordered a second shell at $25 for double shell work as Shimada does on his manipulation videos. Penguin Magic made me laugh when they sent a video of them boxing the order up with the person wearing white gloves. True white glove care! The balls arrived today, they are very nice indeed, supplied in plastic tubes. This will be great for transporting and storage as well. They are heavy like maybe a metal core in the balls, but not too heavy to hold easily between the fingers. The texture of the silicon material is dry and flat finished looking and has no sticky feeling to them at all. One shell did have a black smudge on it and all I did was run it under water and wipe it right off. So the advertising is very true. Water clean up. Can't do that with a Fakini. The shell does have an edge of approximately 3/32 of an inch, flat cut across. So they do not tapper down to a pointed edge. When 2 shells surround a ball they meet as if one ball. I think that is what the girl in the demo video is displaying, a ball that is surrounded with 2 shells. I attempted a double shell and ball production at once and it worked very well for me. Rough because I will have to practice, but I did not drop anything. The balls do have a grippe filling to them, but not a sticky feeling like the Fakini balls. As some of you may have figured out, I have been obsessed with the double shell work since seeing it on YouTube by some of the performers. I only hope I can achieve the mastery of those individuals. Manipulations are much easier when you have the proper equipment, and this is one product that is superior. I am very happy with the balls and highly recommend them to anyone desiring to master Multiplying Billiard Balls. To bad they have to be so expensive, but that is the nature of products today. They bounce great too! |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Another point the JL Mirage Billiard Balls do not sick in the shells. They roll right out very easily. No having to create a break before production. So this set will not let you do the ball through silk effect where you show the silk half way through the silk on both sides. Can't have everything, I guess.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
JL Mirage Balls are dirt collectors. Every time I drop the ball on the floor, it picks up the smallest dirt, hair, or dust it can. This dirt cannot be wiped or brushed off, or even picked off. The only way to get the dirt off is by putting it under the sink facet and running water over it. Comes right off, but practicing difficult move means a lot of trips to the sink.
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JamesRaymond New user Elkhart, IN (USA) 49 Posts |
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On 2012-02-20 15:46, wmhegbli wrote: I notice my Fakini's have the same problem...I have a Full Blooded Siberian Husky and he sheds bad and this causes many trips to the sink.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
No one has commented on Pete Biro's claim of knock-offs at the site. Is this enough to make anyone NOT want to do business there?
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
This forum is not discussing the other items, but I can only say, that I do not see any proof the items they are offering are 'knock offs'. Many of the items sold in the USA are made in China. The person selling these items says they are factory direct without any instructions. If you would throw out everything in your home made in China, you home would be empty.
The Billiard Balls which is the topic here are not sold anywhere else that I can find on the Internet. I truly do not believe these Billiard Balls to be 'knock offs' of anything. Not back to the topic at hand! |
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