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MarcLavelle
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 5:45am
Launching and available from Blackpool February 2012.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHkQ-Dziy84&list=UUp-UJCv7ACFtbpEEJx6E-Fw&index=7&feature=plcp
David will be giving full demonstrations at Blackpool and also openly showing the gimmick and mechanics behind the effect.
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nowyoucme
Veteran user
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 5:54am
The demo looks really bad. Not very good. To meny cuts. For two guys that allways put down bad demos and then Davids is one of the worst ones. We all know there is a gimmick so whats the big deal. I will wait for reviews.
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MarcLavelle
New user
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 6:13am
There is little point showing a WHOLE routine during a trailer, call me old school, but if you show the whole thing, it leaves very little to your imagination. Do you not remember the days of mail order when all you had to go by was the ad copy? I even remember the early days of internet shopping, when items did not even HAVE trailers. On that note, it IS a trailer. A trailer, by definition is a short promotional film composed of clips showing highlights of a 'movie' due for release in the near future. In the case of Magic, 'movie' is obviously replaced with 'effect'. Of course, if the trailer showed things happening that could NOT be done with the sold item, then it would be a 'bad' or misleading trailer.
If you do Metal Bending, this will be a great addition to your routine, and also give you the ability do manipulate different items/parts of items.
Dave showed this to some top magicians at the Session Convention and fooled the hell out of them. Just read the quotes from the likes of Alex Pandrea and Eric Jones.
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matt.magicman
Inner circle
Mars
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 7:02am
Not for me thanks
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TheGreatRaymondo
Special user
Manchester, England
741 Posts
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 7:10am
It has to be a similar gimmick to Coinvexed 2.0 (Which I think is fantastic by the way!)to get that angle of bend and make it so clean. I do like the look of it and will check it out at Blackpool before ordering as it ain't cheap!
We are inclined to believe those whom we do not know because they have not yet deceived us...
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MarcLavelle
New user
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 7:37am
The gimmick is NOT in your hand, Raymond (nor up your sleeve, before anyone suggests!)
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TheGreatRaymondo
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Manchester, England
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 8:43am
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On 2012-01-30 07:37, MarcLavelle wrote:
The gimmick is NOT in your hand, Raymond (nor up your sleeve, before anyone suggests!)
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Hmmmmm... (whilst rubbing chin with thumb and forefinger...) Interesting, Very interesting...
We are inclined to believe those whom we do not know because they have not yet deceived us...
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nowyoucme
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 10:52am
Don't take it the wroung way. I love most of what David puts out. I love my Coinvexed 2.0. But before I dish out that kind of cash I would like to see a better video or see some good reviews. I can put out a demo showing you a bent knife and then send you a pair of pliers.
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SmithMagicMan
Regular user
198 Posts
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 11:45am
Lol
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MarcLavelle
New user
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 11:46am
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On 2012-01-30 10:52, nowyoucme wrote:
Don't take it the wroung way. I love most of what David puts out. I love my Coinvexed 2.0. But before I dish out that kind of cash I would like to see a better video or see some good reviews. I can put out a demo showing you a bent knife and then send you a pair of pliers.
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Totally agree, but surely that method would have been spotted?  Feel free to come see Dave at Blackpool!
It is the same Straight Knife, that the spectator signs, that bends.
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SmithMagicMan
Regular user
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 11:59am
Surely you could do the same effect with a coinvexed gimmick and misdirection?
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Falconer
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 2:45pm
In my opinion, the clip don`t show clearly the total performance of the great magican Dadid Penn in his Bionik.
I love this the kind of effects that use a common object, especially for those working in restaurants!
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Jamie Ferguson
Inner circle
Scotland
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Posted: Feb 3, 2012 6:01pm
Someone hare on the Café has been using the Osterlind 'in the palm' method for bending knives...
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=144766&forum=15
I wonder how this compares to Bionic?
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SmithMagicMan
Regular user
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Posted: Feb 3, 2012 6:19pm
I doubt Bionik will be bought as much as coinvexed was. I think DP is a great guy, but the trailer hasn't convinced me :/
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magik1
New user
70 Posts
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Posted: Feb 3, 2012 6:21pm
Is this the old belt gimmick?
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TAJ
Regular user
191 Posts
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Posted: Feb 3, 2012 7:15pm
Pass
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Waterloophai
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Belgium
662 Posts
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Posted: Feb 3, 2012 7:49pm
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On 2012-02-03 18:21, magik1 wrote:
Is this the old belt gimmick?
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Could be.
Like the bending glass was also a very old idea of Ted Lesley.
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Darth_Prime
Loyal user
279 Posts
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Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:28am
I know a few people who have been doing this for quite a while now, not utilizing this gimmick
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TAJ
Regular user
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Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:34am
Alternative free routine: http://youtu.be/tyno3utV1hQ
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Zombie Magic
Inner circle
I went out for a beer and now have
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Posted: Feb 4, 2012 1:41am
David Penn is an amazing performer. If you watch his lecture dvd, he is VERY talented. And since he invented this, he probably uses it and should release it so he's credited.
I won't order it and will say why. I watched the trailer a few times and don't see anything to get that excited about. You can knock people out doing this with a spoon ( signed like the knife ) and no gimmick. You can knock them out with a borrowed, signed coin and use no gimmick ( with a switch ) or one of the Sharpie gimmicks.
If you have no experience with any bending of any sorts and saw the ad, I guess you'd be interested. But if that's the case, where would someone like that use this? I say that because they probably aren't performing in venues. Most everything released is bought by people that magic is strictly a hobby. They could buy it to use in their home for guests. But it would be easier and far less expensive to learn a spoon or fork bend.
The 'endorsements' made me laugh. Maybe if James Randi gave one, I'd listen. But friends, who you will not see using this in their professional work?
The endorsements didn't even make sense: "James Bond would be proud". Quick, let me hit the order button. lol.
I'm sure it does what it claims. I'm sure people will buy it and say great things. And then they'll sell it. Not because it isn't great, but because there are far less expensive ways to bend spoon and forks with no gimmicks that amaze people as well as the knife.
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shouksmiths
Regular user
York, England
109 Posts
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Posted: Feb 4, 2012 8:50am
I had to laugh when I saw the ad... All moody and mysterious. And then pitching it as if the idea of bending a knife is some incredible new breakthrough
'From the mind of David Penn'...'and I thought if I could bend a fork why not a knife.''
Sorry. I'm sure the method is very clever and David is good magician but sometimes we take ourselves a little too seriously. ;-)
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nowyoucme
Veteran user
348 Posts
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Posted: Feb 4, 2012 10:18am
Not liking it at all. Here sign my knife, look its bent. You can keep it if you want. ( Laymen ) look guys I got a bent knife from David ( WoW ) Laymens friends. Big deal you now have a Fu__ up knife. Na not for me.
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Stephen Young
Inner circle
Thought Illusions
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Posted: Feb 4, 2012 11:21am
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On 2012-02-04 10:18, nowyoucme wrote:
Not liking it at all. Here sign my knife, look its bent. You can keep it if you want. ( Laymen ) look guys I got a bent knife from David ( WoW ) Laymens friends. Big deal you now have a Fu__ up knife. Na not for me.
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You could say that about any metal bending. Coin, spoon, fork, key.
As in all things presentation is everything.
Steve
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J M Talbot
Inner circle
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Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:47pm
I have coinvexed, will not be buying this or any other Penn product. You know what they "live by the sword...."
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David43
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Posted: Feb 4, 2012 1:19pm
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On 2012-02-04 12:47, J M Talbot wrote:
I have coinvexed, will not be buying this or any other Penn product. You know what they "live by the sword...."
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Yes JM, David Penn - "live by the sword die by the sword". An ancient saying but perfectly apt for this time.
I Put a Spell On You
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J M Talbot
Inner circle
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Posted: Feb 4, 2012 1:56pm
I have coinvexed, will not be buying this or any other Penn product. You know what they "live by the sword...."
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Mr. Marko
New user
24 Posts
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Posted: Feb 5, 2012 2:42pm
I agree with the above posts. Not interested. Won't buy.
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SmithMagicMan
Regular user
198 Posts
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Posted: Feb 5, 2012 6:03pm
Tis sad that they have to edit these topics - Alan Rorrison had some really good points.
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emyers99
Inner circle
Columbus, Ohio
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Posted: Feb 5, 2012 6:37pm
I still cant believe they are charging 130 bucks for it.
Eric
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*double-A-magic*
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Cheshire, England, UK
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Posted: Feb 5, 2012 8:12pm
Not for me as I'm not really in to metal bending, at least not yet. Saying that I am saving up to buy Coinvexed 2 the sharpie edition. Wish the prices were a little lower but I suppose you get what you pay for.
AA
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