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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts |
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On 2012-03-05 14:20, Jamie Ferguson wrote: One of the most hysterical things about this now is the sheer number of people who have spoken to somebody at Real Secrets and have the inside info. What was the old adage..tell one person and it isn't a secret anymore? Methinks the Real Secrets team might as well divulge all -- it can only increase sales. And enough with the "you'll be kicking yourselves" schtick. Whilst I hope that everybody who likes a bit of fun and mystery gets a real kick out of this lets not forget that you are paying $12 a trick...I don't think me having 24 $12 tricks is going to change my life. I also am struggling to think of anybody who has released 24 brand new, never before seen tricks, which are all eminently worth having. So by all means have a great time with this but don't worry about we folk who miss out, somehow I am sure we will survive. |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts |
From another aspect:
How many of the very greatest effects that you know or use could be taught in 2 sheets of paper or less? In examples of these, who's involved makes a great deal of difference. Times 12.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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newguy Elite user 411 Posts |
Tom,
You mean tricks like Out of This World or Card Warp? |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts |
Yea, the game-changing stuff. Could be! You never know.
I'll roll the danm dice.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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Magicsquared Inner circle 1262 Posts |
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On 2012-02-19 06:24, Roslyn wrote: Was this question ever answered? |
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
I think Ben Franklin said "Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
I'm not sure anyone needs to worry about life changing or missing out. This is just for fun. One thing I like is there is no "specific" hype. I always watch a demo, get excited, then my imagination goes crazy and I am almost always let down. My fault because I imagine a better trick than the one I buy. I am sure we all know the feeling "Aww man, ripped off AGAIN!" Real Secrets will be a surprise. I have no idea what to expect. WOO HOO!! James ps I am not trying to hype anything or say I know what is up. I don't. I am also not thumbing my nose at people that don't want to join. Quote: On 2012-03-05 15:29, Ray Chelt wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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todsky Inner circle www.magicstore.ca 2354 Posts |
Aside from the one gimmick from Michael Weber, it seems to me that each monthly trick will be a set of instructions for one trick. So 12 trick instructions per year is $144, but a typical book of tricks which contains about 40 effects can be had for around $40. So this 12-trick Real Secrets 'book' in installments would need to be absolutely cutting-edge incredible to justify itself. But then again, one-trick DVD's are around $25, so I guess it's all relative.
Todsky's Magic Shop: over 15,000 tricks, books, DVD s and Card decks. www.magicstore.ca
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
First page of this thread;
"Physical props and instructions sent by First Class US Mail every month" James
Still with the Chinese circus
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duanebarry Special user 883 Posts |
Those are notably not singular. Which does not mean that they WILL be plural, but the writer could easily have written the definitively singular "a prop" there -- and did not.
Also: "...you will get the feature and also items you may not understand but will find the secret to as time passes." So there's apparently a Feature item, which implies one or more other lesser items (props and/or routines -- it's ambiguous) each month as well. Although it was labeled as such in the big thread over at Genii, I'd be surprised if it's merely a single Trick Of The Month offering. |
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
That's what I was thinking Duane. I agree with Todsky too that it is not some bargain. As opposed to a book or even a DVD it is a bit higher priced.
James Quote: On 2012-03-06 00:09, duanebarry wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts |
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On 2012-03-05 00:59, Howie Diddot wrote: They want MORE money for free National TV advertising? LOL!! Well not exactly since you are not allowed to say what the effect is, or where you got it from. So what is the problem? Yhey are shooting themselves in the foot with their own rules now. If I buy an effect or material I am going to use it anywhere I *** please, otherwise they can keep it.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts |
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On 2012-03-05 13:05, spartacus wrote: I don't think they have as many as they claim. I am betting they are making them as they are ordered. Nothing they are doing is good "business sense." That is the problem.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts |
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On 2012-03-05 15:29, Ray Chelt wrote: I spoke with God last night and he told me not to order. You will have to take my word for it, don't order or you will kick yourself later. I wonder what one has to do in order to be so lucky to have spoken with Real Secrets?
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
He that would keep a secret must keep it secret that he hath a secret to keep.
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shaunproof Loyal user Parts Unknown 228 Posts |
I spoke with someone directly involved with the project too. I bought him a hamburger -- he's going to pay me back on Tuesday.
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts |
Seems like by contacting "select people" that Real Secrets are breaking their own rules. I probably have millions of effects contained inside of all of my books, VHS's and DVDS collected over 32 years. So I am going to be kicking myself if I don't add 24 more? I would think the opposite. Any of that material, esecially the best of it could have been used to package up some Real Secrets if I got the permission of the creators. Or you could just steal them like some do and add some "twists" to them and hope no one notices.
Also if the price is only "$12.00" a month then let me pay via paypal each month with the option to cancel or not buy the next one anytime that I want, instead of charging for a full year with a recurring payment. They won't do that because they want all the money up front, and they are making them as they get orders in. But they want to keep that a "secret."
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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slyhand Inner circle Good ole Virginia 1908 Posts |
I wonder what is better...
To have a boat load of books with millions of tricks that one has not yet read or getting one trick a month that one will most definitely anticipate and read. I guess it's all a matter of perspective. To each his own.
I am getting so tired of slitting the throats of people who say that I am a violent psychopath.
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todsky Inner circle www.magicstore.ca 2354 Posts |
I stand corrected; if there is indeed a physical prop each month (and not just a double-faced card!), then it sounds like a worthwhile venture for me. And I enjoy surprises (especially the good kind).
Todsky's Magic Shop: over 15,000 tricks, books, DVD s and Card decks. www.magicstore.ca
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
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On 2012-03-06 06:28, sirbrad wrote: If that is God's will then I will comply. I have just cancelled my subscription via PayPal.
When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
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On 2012-03-06 06:28, sirbrad wrote: Funniest post in the topic
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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