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Royal_Flu$h New user 1 Post |
Hi all...new here, please be nice!
So, this is something that's only recently bothered me. I've been scouring YouTube recently and been seeing lots of tutorials and performances, just to get some ideas flowing and something occurred to me...I think I'm the only card magician who handles cards and deals THE WRONG WAY! It didn't bother me until I bought Mathieu Bich's 'Spreadwave' and all of a sudden, I was having to follow the DVD instructions in reverse. I'm a keen poker player and I always hold the cards in my right hand and deal from my left. The same with card tricks; if I'm fanning a deck and getting somebody to pick a card, I will always hold the pack in my right hand. Since I realised holding a deck in a normal fan with your right hand means you can't see any of the card values in the index (not the end of the world, but a pain if you want to ponce about and show off the proper fan!) I've taken to fanning one handed which spreads the cards the other way (i.e, from a right hand grip, pushes the top of the deck to the right) which is fine, but a little limiting when it comes to the artistry and generally poncy-ness that I want to do so badly by fanning cards in every which way! Should I train my left hand to fan cards properly? Should I adapt all my tricks so I can do them with my right hand? Does anybody else handle cards in this way? I'd be really interested to hear any replies...so far I've not met anybody else who does this and I'm starting to think I'm a bit of a weirdo! I'm right handed by the way. RF$ |
tkuiveuxo New user 90 Posts |
If you are right handed so this is pretty weird but lefties usually hold the deck like you. there is a special lefty deck that has the index on the opposite sides so if you fan like you are used to you will be able to see the indexes of the cards.
I suggest that you will get used to hold the cards in you left hand just because most of the books/ DVDs and other tutorials explain the trick for right handed so holding the deck like you do will force you to do the opposite of what is taught |
Atom3339 Inner circle Spokane, WA 3242 Posts |
John Carney deals that way. By CHOICE. Check out his Palming DVD.
TH
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MagicJuggler Inner circle Anchorage, AK 1161 Posts |
I'm left handed, and therefore have become quite used to having to reverse the directions for everything under the sun. As far as fanning goes, regardless of being right or left handed if you're going to do a pressure or thumb fan with normal cards you have to learn it in the left hand in order for the pips to show. Some spread displays look worse done left handed because the indexes are on the wrong side and aren't very visible.
Matthew Olsen
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kalin_inkov New user Bulgaria 24 Posts |
If necessary, just replace those cards with the right index. Then continue with training.
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Gary T. Veteran user 375 Posts |
I'm left handed but for some reason I can't fan with the deck in my right hand, I go back in forth on what I can do with my right hand and what I can do with my left, what I would suggest is simply doing your fan in reverse, rather than starting with the deck facing out from your thumb, start with it facing inward towards your hand, where the last card would be when you finished your normal fan, then just fan them in the other direction, and you'll be able to see the cards, I'm personally horrible at this but I've seen people do it and have it look just as good as the regular way, so it can be done, just practice
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SheldonR New user 70 Posts |
It's not weird; I'm right-handed but do certain things better with my left hand as well. Your choice is to get a lefty deck or get used to reversing. Good luck!
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havagrim New user 54 Posts |
I am a right handed person, but I handle the cards like a leftie. don't know why, but I am pretty good with using the cards with both hands by now.
When I fan with my right hand, I do it from my pinky to my thumb, instead of from thumb to pinky if that makes sence? That way you show the pips. Never been an issue for me. But for me, I can fan pretty good with my left aswell.. Just practice, practice and then practice some more /Ronnie
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griffindance Regular user 145 Posts |
Im kind of ambidextrous when it comes to fanning and card handling. Equally bad with both hands but there is a cute throw away trick that I do sometimes with fanning the cards two handed overhand.
Reverse the bottom card, fan with the cards in the left hand and show the pips, close the pack and fan again in the opposite hand with the pips hidden. You can say something along the lines "my cards have been bleached!" Its something fast that can be used within another trick that the spectator shouldnt think too much over. If you can fan equally well with both hands its helps the illusion. |
Biggest_Oz New user London 73 Posts |
I too started by using my dominant hand but then noriced that manay magicians used their left hand and I got confused. Soon after I started using my left and things got easier.
Ozzy |
bobthemagicdoerguy Regular user I can't remember where I left my 186 Posts |
This is a good excuse to follow one of my maxims for learning moves: learn it with both hands.
I'm a lefty, so I always had trouble trying to learn from books - interpreting images and explanations. I'd follow through and forget to convert "left" to "right" at some point and get stuck, or I'd get the explanation wrong but not understand how my hands were because they didn't look like the picture. I've since learned that learning to do something ambidextrously is a great benefit. First of all, it improves your muscle memory so that you know moves better with BOTH sides - including the one you thought you did best. At first, learning moves will seem very wrong, but you'll be surprised how quickly you pick it up the second time around. Secondly, it gives you flexibility because you don't have a dominant hand you have to worry about when structuring tricks. |
Montana76 Inner circle I hope I one day reach 1177 Posts |
I've noticed that if I am having trouble practicing a sleight I simply switch hands and suddenly I'm better with the original hand. The DL is a perfect example. My right hand picked this up quite easily..
I try to practice with both, but my left hand is the hand I use to hold the mechanics grip with.. |
Gary T. Veteran user 375 Posts |
I used to be strictly left handed, I do everything left handed, but when I started magic a lot of it came to me in more of the right handed fashion of holding the cards in the left hand, honestly it really bugs me that I DON'T hold my cards in the right hand :S be happy about it, it's a part of being you.
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Siekomagic New user South Africa 76 Posts |
Well some great magicians are/were lefties - Darwin Ortiz comes to mind ... There are some very nice peeks that lefties can do that you cannot do with a regular grip! so always look for the advantages to your uniqueness
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