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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
I think I remember someone saying in a similar thread that Japan hadn't changed their nuclear policy since the disaster.
Just as an update on that- I was informed by a former Japanese official today that all nuclear operations in Japan had been stopped last week. I just did a quick Google search to verify and it looks like the story checks out: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/japan-w......est_news There is some debate over whether or not they should resume a few to deal with shortages. The article mentions this, and the person I spoke to said that over half of the population is opposed to reopening any.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
It's good to see that at least some people are open to learning from experience. Interesting that in the US, thanks to successful lobbying by big oil and Congressional intransigence, virtually no new regulations have resulted from the BP disaster in the Gulf. In other words, it will happen again, probably sooner than later.
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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On 2012-05-07 14:19, mastermindreader wrote: I am personally unaware of anyone, much less pass administrations, seeking any such thing. That sounds like typical left wing fear mongering |
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1178 Posts |
Is Japan making a move back to coal as a replacement source of energy? I believe Germany was considering doing that.
Bob
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2012-05-07 15:28, rockwall wrote: I guess you haven't read any of the proposed legislation from Republicans and their constant calls for more drilling with less regulation. Or perhaps you are just purposely ignoring it for the sake of argument. |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
I don't know what their plans are at the moment. The government seems convinced that they should re-open some plants to deal with the shortage, but the people are opposed.
I was just about to say that I'm not entirely opposed to nuclear power as an energy source when contrasted with coal. I'm kind of on the fence about nuclear power. I think it's cleaner than some alternatives, but we know from history that if something does go wrong it can be huge. I think nuclear power is a better alternative than coal at the moment, but that we shouldn't stop looking for even better sources. I don't know what the future will bring, but right now I don't condemn nuclear power wholesale. Probably more for than against until we see where the new tech leads.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1178 Posts |
If there was an ideal alternative, there wouldn't be much to debate. ANWR, nuclear, fracking, coal and all the other alternatives all have their downside. Which baby is the least ugly depends on who its mother is. Bob doesn't like ANWR. The Japan's have turned away from nuclear. And I'm with you on being concerned about coal (not that I like the other two). Is one prettier than the others? Hard to say. Meanwhile the world’s appetite for cheap energy only continues to grow by leaps and bounds.
Bob
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
We liberals are for more expensive and less energy. It will all work out when we start operation enlightment. Some call it people pruning but we prefer to call it 'right sizing'.
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1178 Posts |
Before Bob blows a gasket, the above should read "ANWR drilling" (I'm sure Bob harbors no dislike of "ANWR" itself)
Bob
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2012-05-07 14:22, mastermindreader wrote: Blame the internet. Arctic National Wildlife Refuge? Am I close? Ask the antelope along the Alaskan Pipeline how much it hurt them.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Ya know, inexpensive energy helps people. The guys wanting to make it expensive to force people and companies to toe the line are egomaniacs who deep inside feel they are superior to the non-like minded. History has shown two things when in comes to nuc power. One is it is as safe as anything out there and two it scares people because they don't understand it. If they had a better jetti in Japan lives would have been saved but you would now think the eartquake and tsunami was caused by the plant.
Does anyone out there think that oil drilling companies have no interest or desire to not have spills? Jeez, some of you act like the bgreed mongers at BP wanted that spill in the gulf and would have taken steps to avoid it? Why doesn't anyone complain about that disaster of a volcaco in Hawaii? Why no outrage with companies running to China where pollutants are pumped into the air to float around the planet? I swear I believe some of you want to kill off half of the population to achieve your utopian dreams but you want to kill off the most productive half. |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
I saw an article recently, can't remember where, with a title something like: "Is Social Darwinism Really So Bad?"
It was a little terrifying. Oh, and I did read the whole article, not just the title
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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GlenD Inner circle LosAngeles, Ca 1293 Posts |
Climate change is independent of human activity. It's always been changing since before we even evolved from the slime, hasn't it? "Global warming" is the manmade earth heating fairy tale. How are we going to cool the earth down, if it does begin to rise at a truly life threatening rate? WE CANT'T! I can just imagine how badly Al Gore is hoping for the end of the world at the end of this year cuz it's looking like his prediction for the world ending in a ball of flame is not going to happen (little over 3 1/2 years left according to his prediction).
Glen
"A miracle is something that seems impossible but happens anyway" - Griffin
"Any future where you succeed, is one where you tell the truth." - Griffin (Griffin rocks!) |
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
Thanks, Santa. Two questions for the historians: after John D. Rockefeller created Standard Oil of Ohio, were petroleum products more or less expensive for the consumer? Better or worse quality?
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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...it's looking like his prediction for the world ending in a ball of flame is not going to happen... Taking a quick glance at the world political situation right now, I wouldn't be surprised if the world ended in a ball of flame any day now. Though, probably not the same kind of ball of flame you're talking about. Enjoy your summer!
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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R.S. Regular user CT one day I'll have 184 Posts |
Question for the deniers; Is there ANYTHING, any technology, any activity, anything at all that humanity can ever do to alter the climate? Do you believe it's simply not possible for humans to affect climate? Or that it is possible but the data doesn't support the claim? Just curious.
Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On 2012-05-07 18:14, Woland wrote: That's like asking if the quality of cocaine and crack got better after the war on drugs started.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Denying what? Does climate change? Of course it does. Is it the fault of human kind? No it is part of the nature of this world. Is pollution good? Of course not. The simple fact is that if you want responsible manufacturing you keep it in countries that care more tan just power and having something to through labor at. I worked at an original top 20 super fund company, meaning we were a problem (Precision Monolithics Inc) and they put in bubblers, paid fines, and cleaned up their act. Before being run out of California under a different owner and name due to the state over regulation the company had one restriction, the company couldn't dump water that goes to the bay because it is too pure and must be mucked up first. Companies typically, not always, care and so the right thing here and in Canada or Europe. Not true in other parts of the world.
One thing I remember is that the fanatical enviromentalist, like other groups that took over countries need an enemy to focus on. Some group had the Jews or blacks or the educated or rich. The new target is evil deniers and those who are considered conservatives. As I said before I believe that some extremist who think they can 'save' the earth and if a billion or so non-enviromentally sensative types need to me sacrificed for the 'better good' then it is worth it.... |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Feel free to ignore the science, Santa. The facts are facts whether you agree with them or not.
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
I'm not ignoring science. Pollution isn't good but what is your plan? End all manufacuring? End personal ownership of cars and force a agricultural based utopia, Pol Pot tried it do we just need to perfect it? So what is the suggestion you have to end this completely human caused global warming?
Here, I'll ask the question no one asks. Attn conservatives, please step up and answer these questions: 1. Do you feel pollution is good? 2. Do you feel most companies in the US would rather be responsible rather than dumping chemicals in the streets and heavy metals into the air? 3. Do you think air pollution contributes at some level to environmntal changes if not globally at least regionally? 4. Do you believe that Chinese pollution is good because they are so dang in tune with their culture and they have such great natural cures? |
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