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Hi guys and gals,

As most here will know I perform the sj escape quite a bit. I've got a new two-man show and I'm looking for a version of the sj that could pass as a medieval restraint.

I'm not really that bothered if its historically accurate. I just want it to look old and pass as if it could've been used back then.

To get a feel of the show click here for the show's poster. I hope you like it.

Cheers,

Ros
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If I recall correctly, SJs were invented near Marseilles, in the early 1600s. It's accurate if you say it is.
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Hmm, can't help you with the jacket, but I am wondering... don't you two live like 4000 miles apart? Where is this show happening?
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LOL.... I wish I was performing with "our" Harley. Now that would be a learning experience and a half!!

Although the Harley I've teamed up with does work as a clown too. Hmmmm.... spooky!
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I can count on one hand how many clown shows I've done in the last ten years. Once, it seemed less lucrative, so I drifted away from it. But I miss the slapstick, and I'm building a new act from scratch, using another of my long-ago passions...bassoon.

Working with Ros would be a treat.
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I would go with something like an Australian/Tom Horn Belt, Trudel Spiderweb or Trudel Torture Harness.
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Not sorted the SJ yet.. I like the idea of Tom Horn/Spiderweb/Harness I'll look into those. Used to do Tom Horn years ago but never really got on with it. Maybe I should pay it another visit.

The first outing for Pyrate Circus was a massive success though and is a show we're going to continue to work on.
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In your selected time frame, many crazy folks were put on boats, to act as crew. Hence, the term "ship of fools". Perhaps you could find more reference to it, because some would most certainly have required occasional restraint.
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On 2012-05-16 09:55, Cliffg37 wrote:
Hmm, can't help you with the jacket, but I am wondering... don't you two live like 4000 miles apart? Where is this show happening?


that would be a hell of a metamorphosis.

Just don't meet halfway!
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What, Dave? You don't like your friends taking a bath?
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On 2012-05-20 16:26, Roslyn wrote:
Not sorted the SJ yet.. I like the idea of Tom Horn/Spiderweb/Harness I'll look into those. Used to do Tom Horn years ago but never really got on with it. Maybe I should pay it another visit.

The first outing for Pyrate Circus was a massive success though and is a show we're going to continue to work on.


The Spiderweb would look particulary appropriate. The new edition of the Encyclopedia of Escapes gives a good description of it. I based the "Madhouse Harness" I use in my shows on the Trudel Spiderweb design.
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Often, lunacy was seen as possession, though over time, it was seen more as a disease. Treatment was far more humane in Islamic areas than in Christian, these being the two major Euro influences of the Middle Ages. (In other places, crazy folks were often seen as intermediaries between man and gods.)

Exorcism, confession, music, trepanning, bloodletting, torture, purges, dunking, and whipping were sometime treatments. Chains of iron have long been seen as appropriate for restraining demons. Manacles were also common. For some people, the belief about not suffering a witch to live, was prevalent...demon possession defined the witch. Death was the cure.

Some European cities had "witch towers" and "fool towers", as places of incarceration. The earlier asylums tended to be run by monks. State sponsored social services were initiated by Henry VIII of England, who made "natural fools" wards of the state. "Naturals" were the folks we'd now call "insane", "developmentally disabled", or in the sideshow style, "freaks".

If you want to do a medieval SJ, it won't be accurate. Here's an article that pictures some of the later developments in treatment. You'll get some interesting ideas from it: http://www.behavioral.net/article/confronting-chaos
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My brother agrees with you 100 percent except, I don't have a brother, but somehow he thinks he does.
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Nothing you come up with will be truly "period," but since you're simply going for THE LOOK, you have a great deal of latitude.
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Thanks guys. This stuff, as always, is a great help.

:)
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Harley, that link is great. Disturbing to an extent, but facinating at the same time! Thanks for sharing!
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On 2012-07-30 13:42, bostonzero wrote:
Harley, that link is great. Disturbing to an extent, but facinating at the same time! Thanks for sharing!


A lot f what Harley posts is "great....... Disturbing .....and ..... Fascinating". ..... You just try nd soak it up.

Read the trickster books he recommends!
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Richard Sherry has produced a new "Medieval Straitjacket"; a steel straitjacket with chainmail sleeves.
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Thanks, Dave! I'm a fount of otherwise useless information. The only other profession I could be in, is academia. Fortunately, I'm honest.
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On 2012-07-31 21:03, Harley Newman wrote:
Thanks, Dave! I'm a fount of otherwise useless information. The only other profession I could be in, is academia. Fortunately, I'm honest.

And want paying!
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Hello. have any of you experience with blackcat magic in UK. I have ordered and paid for the order and not received after a very long time. and they do not answer emails. as a warning
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Try the Blackcatmagic uk thread. Smile lol

You must be happy (not lol at this bit).
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I've been doing historical escapes based on my SJ-escape for quite some years. Lately I don't do that show so much because of damages to my body (not from the chains - even though they've done thir damage as well.)

Here's some pictures of the escape:

http://knytpunkt.com/reportage2/20130630......17_l.jpg

http://cdn07.dayviews.com/23/_u6/_u2/_u8......3735.jpg

http://cdn08.dayviews.com/66/_u2/_u1/_u9......djor.jpg

Best,

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Hi Ark, great pics. Very cool
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I want to know how you stop yourself from destroying your microphone!
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Stuart: Thanks!

Newman: To attach the microphone to the side of my chin with tape was shown to me by Steven Chance many years ago when I visited him in Belgium doing street shows. The mic on the pictures is the same that I use today, and I think that one of the pictures is about five years old. I’ve had real luck with that one. I always carry a spare with me, but have never needed to use it.

The microphone is covered in extra padding. I then threaded the joint between cable and microphone with a thick thread, many many layers. This thread was then superglued to strengthen the joint. I think that makes the joint between wire and mic to hold together and take some more beating.

The sender is attached to my leg by a wide elastic band. That is the only place where the chains don’t make a mess. I’ve used the same sender for many years as well. The joint where the microphone cable and the plug to the sender is also reinforced with tape.

I’ve used this system for my straight jacket and chains as well as my version of the Tom Horn Belt and chains for more than eight years. The PA is starting to wear out now, but it still holds together.
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That's good, and very practical.

I have destroyed several microphones. It always seems to happen in a new way.
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I quess I'm lucky - or do my show to seldom. Smile

Also, it is a lapel microphone, not a headset. Headsets tend to break easily.
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If its a lapel mic ...... you're wearing it all wrong it should go on your ..... well your lapell! Smile

and its nice to see some slug balancing going on there too! Smile http://cdn08.dayviews.com/66/_u2/_u1/_u9......djor.jpg



I know you're not really wearing it wrong or balancing slugs. Just trying to be funny.....

Great photos though!

ANd thanks for sharing the info on the microphones!
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I tend to do everything wrong these days. I will buy me a chin microphone then. Smile
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